Re: [Idna-update] [I18nrp] Last Call: <draft-faltstrom-unicode11-05.txt> (IDNA2008 and Unicode 11.0.0) to Informational RFC

Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com> Fri, 07 December 2018 18:19 UTC

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>...
>> As I've noted before, usability includes "re-enterable"
>> (including "retypable") .
> 
> I might not agree with this, as for example very few characters in 
> arabic script are "retypable" for me. So this is at least a separate 
> issue. But what the registry chooses, I feel is up to them, as long as 
> they do come up with a good repertoire.

IMO that's not a requirement for non-language-speakers.  The intent of IDN is to enable language communities to use their own services, not necessarily that all resources be accessible to users of any other language.

Resources that are keen to provide content more broadly would, I think, best be served by using multiple names, with localized ones for native speaker usability and perhaps an ASCII one for the international audience.

I could even imagine something like a company with a Mongolian URL for Mongolian speakers, a Simplified Chinese URL for the rest of their Chinese customers, and an ASCII URL for their international partners.

-Shawn