[Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-00.txt
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 19:47:20 +0200
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John, Do you plan to add any text on how you plan to encode TAW attribute if given AFI/SAFI is using Extended NLRI Encoding from RFC7911 (ADD-PATHs RFC) ? Thx, R. On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 7:30 PM John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> wrote: > Hi Donatas, > > I’m combining replies to two of your questions. I hope that’s OK. > > > On Oct 17, 2025, at 2:28 AM, Donatas Abraitis < > donatas.abraitis@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > This must be written in the document, because now I understand what the > point of this new attribute is, thanks. How do we ensure consistency > between TAW and MP_REACH_NLRI keys? They can be different, right? > > They are never supposed to be different, that’s the point. Looking at the > spec, I guess we need to be clearer about this up front. Section 4, second > paragraph, does demonstrate the intent, though: > > ``` > the Treat-As-Withdraw attribute SHOULD be parsed and its list of NLRI > compared to the list of NLRI present in the MP_REACH_NLRI attribute. In > case of difference, the Treat-As-Withdraw attribute SHALL be ignored. > However, because this reveals an error in either the Treat-As-Withdraw > attribute or the MP_REACH_NLRI attribute > ``` > > As Bruno and Jeff were discussing, there are different choices available > for how aggressively to police consistency. On one end we have “do not > police it at all”, on the other end we have “treat it as a fatal error if > they are inconsistent”. The present version falls somewhere in between. > > > On Oct 17, 2025, at 10:01 AM, Donatas Abraitis < > donatas.abraitis@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Didn't look if this was asked/answered, but correct me if I'm wrong (or > speaking nonsense). The entire MP_REACH_NLRI attribute must be treated as > withdrawn, but is it possible to signal that ONLY a subnet of the NLRI > parsing failed? > > I’m confused by the question: there isn’t any signaling in the proposal, > unless you count "logging an error listing the NLRI involved” as a form of > “signaling” to the administrator of the router involved. > > In any case, IMO (and per the present spec and RFC 7606) once you’ve > decided the MP_REACH_NLRI is malformed, you MUST treat everything within it > as toxic. I guess you might be able to be even more selective, but I > wouldn’t advocate that. > > Thanks, > > —John
- [Idr] draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-00.t… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Treat-as-withdraw attribute consistency (wa… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: Treat-as-withdraw attribute consistency… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: Treat-as-withdraw attribute consistency… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Nat Kao
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… John Scudder
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Nat Kao
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Nat Kao
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Nat Kao
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… John Scudder
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… John Scudder
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… John Scudder
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Session resets aren't so bad? [was: Re: [Id… John Scudder
- [Idr] Re: Session resets aren't so bad? [was: Re:… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… John Scudder
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… John Scudder
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Donatas Abraitis
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… John Scudder
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… John Scudder
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Nat Kao
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] CHRE: Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-han… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: CHRE: Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: CHRE: Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error… John Scudder
- [Idr] Re: CHRE: Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: draft-decraene-idr-nlri-error-handling-… John Scudder