[Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 04/01/2026)
Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn> Tue, 31 March 2026 04:12 UTC
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Subject: [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 04/01/2026)
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Hi, Jeffrey: I have just finished one rough statistics about the current WG documents in IDR(also the expired WG documents), and compare them with the loads on other WGs within routing area. IDR WG currently has 38+5 active WG documents(5 is in the IESG process), and 45 inactive WG documents. The workload in other WGs within routing area are the followings: BESS(21/15) BFD(3/3) BIER(7+3/20) CATS(1+2/0) CCAMP(13/18) DETNET(9+2/1) LISP(11+2/6) LSR(16+4/5) LSVR(1/1) MANET(3/1) MPLS(8+3/9) NVO3(2/3) PCE(20+4/3) PIM(10+5/15) RIFT(1+1/1) ROLL(2/10) RTGWG(9/10) SAVNET(5/0) SPRING(17+3/3) TEAS(20+4/11) TVR(1+2/0) Only five WGs have the workload over 20 WG documents. On the other hand, for the works within IDR WG, I have the following statistics(track 1 represents the "IDR-SN" related documents; track 2 represents "IDR-EW" related documents Active WG documents(38+5) 17drafts--track 1 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-link-mtu/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-link-mtu-11 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-ts-flowspec-srv6-policy/> draft-ietf-idr-ts-flowspec-srv6-policy-10 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-fsv2-ip-basic/> draft-ietf-idr-fsv2-ip-basic-04 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-l2vpn/> draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-l2vpn-27 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-redirect-ip/> draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-redirect-ip-06 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-network-slice-ts/> draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-network-slice-ts-05 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-inter-as-topology-ext /> draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-inter-as-topology-ext-21 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-metric/> draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-metric-04 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu/> draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu-14 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3/> draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-nvo3-23 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-srv6/> draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-srv6-08 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-ext/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-flex-algo-ext-02 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-bgp-only-fabric/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-bgp-only-fabric-04 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-ifit/> draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-ifit-11 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-path-segme nt/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-path-segment-10 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-nrp/> draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-nrp-08 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-sr-vtn-mt/> draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-sr-vtn-mt-14 26 drafts--track 2 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-linklocal-capability/> draft-ietf-idr-linklocal-capability-04 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-5g-edge-service-metadata/> draft-ietf-idr-5g-edge-service-metadata-31 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-model-19 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-performance-routing/> draft-ietf-idr-performance-routing-06 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-rpd/> draft-ietf-idr-rpd-20 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-node-target-ext-comm/> draft-ietf-idr-node-target-ext-comm-03 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-fwd-rr/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-fwd-rr-05 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-sdwan-edge-discovery/> draft-ietf-idr-sdwan-edge-discovery-26 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-dynamic-cap/> 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<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-next-next-hop-nodes/> draft-ietf-idr-next-next-hop-nodes-00 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ifit-capabilities/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ifit-capabilities-08 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bier-te-path/> draft-ietf-idr-bier-te-path-05 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-rfc4271bis/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-rfc4271bis-00 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-vpn-prefix-orf/> draft-ietf-idr-vpn-prefix-orf-33 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-nhc/> draft-ietf-idr-nhc-02 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth/> draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth-24 Expired WG drafts (45) 14 drafts---track 1 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-path-segment/> draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-path-segment-14 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-nrp/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-nrp-02 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-interfaceset/> draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-interfaceset-06 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-epe-over-l2bundle /> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-epe-over-l2bundle-00 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-te-path/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-te-path-02 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-v2/> draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-v2-04 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-isis-flood-reflectio n/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-isis-flood-reflection-04 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-path-redirect/> draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-path-redirect-12 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-service-segments/ > draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-service-segments-02 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-label/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-flowspec-label-02 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-mpls-match/> draft-ietf-idr-flowspec-mpls-match-02 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-sr-p2mp-policy/> draft-ietf-idr-sr-p2mp-policy-00 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-ls-trill/> draft-ietf-idr-ls-trill-05 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-node-admin-tag-exten sion/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-node-admin-tag-extension-03 31 drafts---track 2 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ct-srv6/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ct-srv6-07 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-multinexthop-attribute/> draft-ietf-idr-multinexthop-attribute-04 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-registered-wide-bgp-communi ties/> draft-ietf-idr-registered-wide-bgp-communities-03 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities/> draft-ietf-idr-wide-bgp-communities-12 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-legacy-rtc/> draft-ietf-idr-legacy-rtc-11 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-fsm-iana/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-fsm-iana-00 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr/> draft-ietf-idr-rtc-hierarchical-rr-04 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-attribute-announcement/ > draft-ietf-idr-bgp-attribute-announcement-03 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-haas-idr-bgp-diffract/> draft-haas-idr-bgp-diffract-00 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-autoconf-considerations /> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-autoconf-considerations-02 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-nh-cost/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-nh-cost-03 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-rs-bfd/> draft-ietf-idr-rs-bfd-09 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-rtc-no-rt/> draft-ietf-idr-rtc-no-rt-12 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-bestpath-selection-crit eria/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-bestpath-selection-criteria-12 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ipv6-rt-constrain/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ipv6-rt-constrain-12 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-sla-exchange/> draft-ietf-idr-sla-exchange-13 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-custom-decision/> draft-ietf-idr-custom-decision-08 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-aspath-orf/> draft-ietf-idr-aspath-orf-13 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-sla-exchange-impl/> draft-ietf-idr-sla-exchange-impl-02 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-reserved-extended-communiti es/> draft-ietf-idr-reserved-extended-communities-09 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-enhanced-gr/> draft-ietf-idr-enhanced-gr-06 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines/> draft-ietf-idr-add-paths-guidelines-08 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-impleme ntation/> draft-ietf-idr-ix-bgp-route-server-implementation-00 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2-15 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2-tc-mib/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mibv2-tc-mib-05 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-enhanced-refresh-impl/> draft-ietf-idr-enhanced-refresh-impl-00 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-multisession/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-multisession-07 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-issues/> draft-ietf-idr-bgp-issues-06 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-best-external/> draft-ietf-idr-best-external-05 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-mrai-dep/> draft-ietf-idr-mrai-dep-04 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-rfc4760bis/> draft-ietf-idr-rfc4760bis-03 Besides the distinctive technology application differences between these two tracks, can the number above support the split of IDR WG, and further, convergence of other light load WGs? Aijun From: Jeffrey Haas [mailto:jhaas@pfrc.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2026 4:56 AM To: Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn> Cc: Tiger Xu <xuxiaohu_ietf@hotmail.com>; Keyur Patel <keyur=40arrcus.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; idr <idr@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Idr] WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 04/01/2026) Aijun (and others), While the charter last call wasn't to setup conversation of "let's split the group", that point had been discussed with the chairs and the AD previously. The IDR chairs are not currently supportive of a split. That said, it's worth pushing the discussion more generally to see if we arrive at similar conclusions. On Mar 30, 2026, at 05:27, Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn <mailto:wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn> > wrote: Work within these two tracks is mutually independent and can be proceed in parallel, which will defintely accelerate the processing of currently queued drafts. As a supporter of a split, it'd be useful for those thinking it is helpful to discuss why they think a split would help the work. Please be specific as to what you think isn't working right now. The idr-chairs github tracks the status of such things: https://github.com/ietf-wg-idr/idr-chairs Please also consider doing the exercise of picking documents you think should be making better progress and reviewing the IETF mail archive to see what traffic is happening on-list (WG work happens on the list) that is moving the documents forwrd. -- Jeff
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Tiger Xu
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] 答复: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Tiger Xu
- [Idr] WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 04/01… Keyur Patel
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Aijun Wang
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Gyan Mishra
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Gyan Mishra
- [Idr] Re: 答复: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026… Gyan Mishra
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Joel Halpern
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Gyan Mishra
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Joel Halpern
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Susan Hares
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Gyan Mishra
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Keyur Patel
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Aijun Wang
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Susan Hares
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… slitkows.ietf
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Keyur Patel
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Jeffrey Haas
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Joel Halpern
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Gyan Mishra
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Keyur Patel
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Keyur Patel
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Keyur Patel
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… bruno.decraene
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Ketan Talaulikar
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Job Snijders
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Keyur Patel
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Susan Hares
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Susan Hares
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Susan Hares
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Ketan Talaulikar
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Ketan Talaulikar
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Ketan Talaulikar
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Keyur Patel
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: Closed - WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18… Keyur Patel
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Jeff Tantsura
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk
- [Idr] Re: WG LC on IDR Re-Charter (03/18/2026 - 0… Robert Raszuk