Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter
Eric Rosen <erosen@cisco.com> Wed, 03 February 2010 16:02 UTC
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To: "John G. Scudder" <jgs@juniper.net>
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From: Eric Rosen <erosen@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter
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With regard to the paragraph: The IDR working group also has an oversight role for all extensions made to BGP for other uses that may be developed in other working groups. IDR will review extensions made to BGP in other working groups at least at WG document adoption and during working group last calls. The IDR working group will also provide advice and guidance on BGP to other working groups as requested. In some cases the IDR WG chairs may work with the chairs of other working groups and the IESG to move BGP work into the IDR WG instead of the another WG. I'd suggest omitting the first and last sentences. The first sentence adds no content, it just provides something to fight about (what does "oversight" mean, exactly?). The last sentence doesn't seem to add anything either, as WG chairs may negotiate at any time to move stuff from one WG to another. Historically, however, IDR has been more likely to give stuff away than to take stuff in. On the issue of whether it is IDR's job to "protect the Internet" by blocking other WGs from augmenting the use of BGP (or particular BGP sessions), that fight has been fought and lost multiple times in the past dozen years.
- [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter Danny McPherson
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter Jari Arkko
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter Ross Callon
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter John Leslie
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter Danny McPherson
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter John G. Scudder
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter Danny McPherson
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter Eric Rosen
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter Jari Arkko
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter Ross Callon
- Re: [Idr] Revised proposed IDR charter Susan Hares