Re: [Idr] [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02' and draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-00

<thomas.morin@orange.com> Fri, 13 November 2015 16:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02' and draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-00
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John,

(Cc'ing IDR.)

2015-11-13, John E Drake:
>
> I spoke with Eric and Ali and we would like to change both the
> overlay  draft and the tunnel encaps drafts as follows.
>
> For the overlay draft, replace this text in section 5.1.3:
>
> "If the BGP Encapsulation extended community is not present, then
> thedefault MPLS encapsulation or a statically configured encapsulation is
 > assumed."
>
> With the following:
>
> "Note that the MPLS encapsulation tunnel type is needed in order to
> distinguish between an advertising node that only supports non-MPLS
> encapsulations and one that supports MPLS and non-MPLS
> encapsulations. An advertising node that only supports MPLS
> encapsulation does not need to advertise any encapsulation tunnel
> types; i.e., if the BGP Encapsulation extended community is not
> present, then either MPLS encapsulation or a statically configured
> encapsulation is assumed."

Having more text to explain things in the overlay draft does not hurt.


>
> For the tunnel encaps draft, replace this text in section 5:
>
> "If the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute contains several TLVs (i.e.,
> ifit specifies several tunnels), router R may choose any one of those
 > tunnels, based upon local policy. If any of tunnels' TLVs contain the
 > Color sub-TLV and/or the Protocol Type sub-TLV defined in [RFC5512], the
> choice of tunnel may be influenced by these sub-TLVs."
>
> With the following:
>
> "If the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute contains several TLVs (i.e.,
> ifit specifies several tunnels), router R may choose any one of those
> tunnels, based upon local policy. If any of tunnels' TLVs contain the
> Color sub-TLV and/or the Protocol Type sub-TLV defined in [RFC5512], the
> choice of tunnel may be influenced by these sub-TLVs. Note that if none
> of the TLVs specifies the MPLS tunnel type, a Label Switched Path SHOULD
> NOT be used unless none of the TLVs specifies a feasible tunnel."

I think that the above will technically work.

*However* it would be a pity to *not* have the very useful clear-text 
explanation of the reason for the 'MPLS' type (what you propose to add 
above in the overlay draft) in  draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-00... why 
provide the smooth explanation for only one of the specs to which this 
'MPLS' type applies ?

>
> We hope this is satisfactory.

Close, but not quite there yet :)

Best,

-Thomas




>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thomas Morin [mailto:thomas.morin@orange.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:08 AM
>> To: John E Drake; bess@ietf.org
>> Cc: Eric Rosen
>> Subject: Re: [bess] One question about 'draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02'
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> 2015-11-12, John E Drake:
>>>
>>> Why do you think it should be documented in Eric's draft rather than in the
>> EVPN Overlay draft?
>>
>> The issue applies beyond the context of E-VPN overlay specs, and exist in
>> any context where different kinds of MPLS(/x) encaps can be mixed (E-VPN
>> non-overlay, IP VPNs), which is addressed by Eric's draft.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -Thomas
>


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