Re: [Idr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound-00.txt

Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Sun, 25 October 2020 06:21 UTC

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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 02:21:23 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound-00.txt
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Hi Melchior

I read the two drafts rev 1 split into two separate drafts.  Looks good.

Let me know what you think of adding the use cases to the draft that I
mentioned in my rebuttal as to the context of the clipping of routes over
the maximum use case with logging.   Also this gives the operator
flexibility to disconnect, or log without disconnect of session, or clip at
the maximum without disconnect.

This 3rd option is important to operators to avoid an outage from
disconnect.

IDR WG

Please comment on the feedback context I have given on the clipping with
logging at the maximum prefix.

Kind Regards

Gyan

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:35 PM Melchior Aelmans <melchior@aelmans.eu>
wrote:

> Hi Gyan,
>
> We've uploaded new versions of both the in- and outbound draft. Please
> have a look when you have time and comment.
> Thanks again for your suggestions. The source of the drafts is to be found here
> on GitHub <https://github.com/bgp/draft-ietf-maxprefix>. Feel free to
> sent and suggest via GitHub if you prefer.
>
> Cheers,
> Melchior
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:29 AM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Melchior
>>
>> Thanks for the quick response!
>>
>> For both inbound and outbound direction we have today the option to set
>> prefix limit and threshold for the peer disconnect scenario, so now we
>> would add a 3rd parameter is your suggestion.
>>
>> I agree and that makes sense.  With this option when the limit hits and
>> we are clipping over the limit it would be possible to also do the warning
>> flag with it so we are logging when clipping and maybe even number of
>> routes clipped in the log message.
>>
>> If you have a GitHub for the draft I would be happy to co-author the
>> draft and provide any additional feedback.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>>
>> Gyan
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:27 PM Melchior Aelmans <melchior@aelmans.eu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gyan,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>> Good point and agreed this could be useful. Would you be okay with
>>> having this as an additional action next to shutdown?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Melchior
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 4:53 PM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Authors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to modify the action so that we have the option to
>>>> not disconnect the peer and allow the peer to remain UP state but clip the
>>>> routes above the upper limit and provide this option for both inbound and
>>>> outbound directions.  This was the PE resources are not impacted as well as
>>>> the customer peer still remains in an Up state.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Gyan
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:34 AM Melchior Aelmans <melchior@aelmans.eu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi IDR,
>>>>>
>>>>> As suggested in earlier WG meetings (both in GROW and IDR) we have
>>>>> split the Maximum Prefix Limits draft
>>>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sa-grow-maxprefix/> into Maximum
>>>>> Prefix Limits Outbound
>>>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound/>
>>>>>  and Maximum Prefix Limits Inbound
>>>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-inbound/>.
>>>>> The authors are looking for your feedback and input on both.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Melchior
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>>>>> Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 3:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound-00.txt
>>>>> To: <i-d-announce@ietf.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>>>> directories.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Title           : Revised BGP Maximum Prefix Limits Outbound
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Authors         : Melchior Aelmans
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                           Massimiliano Stucchi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                           Job Snijders
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Filename        : draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound-00.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Pages           : 9
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Date            : 2020-09-30
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    This document updates RFC4271 by adding a control mechanism which
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    limits the negative impact of outbound route leaks (RFC7908) in
>>>>> order
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    to prevent resource exhaustion in Border Gateway Protocol (BGP)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    implementations.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound-00
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-sas-idr-maxprefix-outbound-00
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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