Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-policy-10.txt (6/4 to 6/18) - WG LC completed, awaiting -12.txt
Alexander Azimov <a.e.azimov@gmail.com> Mon, 06 July 2020 20:13 UTC
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Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 23:13:12 +0300
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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-policy-10.txt (6/4 to 6/18) - WG LC completed, awaiting -12.txt
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Brian, I don't feel it's good to add any limitations aka stripping. Roles are negotiated, that is their main idea. And we already have an allocation policy for future roles: The allocation policy for new entries up to and including > value 127 is "Expert Review" [RFC5226]. The allocation policy for > values 128 through 251 is "First Come First Served". The values from > 252 through 255 are for "Experimental Use". пн, 6 июл. 2020 г. в 22:49, Brian Dickson <brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com>: > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:24 AM Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) > <kotikalapudi.sriram=40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > >> Hi Gyan, >> >> You wrote: >> "In the context of keeping the door open for future internal roles as the >> reader would be confused when reading “any” meaning iBGP, however internal >> roles don’t exist today. My recommendation would be to update the draft >> to >> say “any” when the internal roles are explicitly defined. That could be >> done anytime when you have fully vetted the internal role concept and the >> draft is updated accordingly." >> >> Would the following substitution take care of your concern? >> >> Current text: BGP Role is a new configuration option that can >> be configured on any BGP session. >> >> New text: This document specifies a new configuration option >> BGP Role that is intended to be used with eBGP. >> However, in the future, the applicability of BGP Role >> can be extended to iBGP when suitable internal roles are defined. >> >> > As an alternative, maybe change the text so that it references an IANA > table, and have the new table introduced via the IANA Actions section, with > particulars about how new table entries get added? > Allow for private roles as well as new standard roles, with details on > what to do with private roles (if private roles are defined/allowed), e.g. > strip or substitute on announcement via eBGP. > Or just have the well-defined roles table only, and require standards > action to add table entries with reference to RFCs in the table. > > Brian > > >> Thanks. >> >> Sriram >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Idr mailing list >> Idr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >> > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > -- Best regards, Alexander Azimov
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Alexander Azimov
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Alexander Azimov
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Alexander Azimov
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Alexander Azimov
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Alexander Azimov
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Brian Dickson
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Alexander Azimov
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Alexander Azimov
- Re: [Idr] WG LC for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-open-polic… Randy Bush