Re: [Idr] Comment on draft-zhang-idr-upstream-assigned-label-solution

zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn Fri, 31 July 2015 09:34 UTC

Return-Path: <zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn>
X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7311A0078; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:34:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -81.76
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-81.76 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLACK=20, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NidH5DQb4G5a; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:34:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mx5.zte.com.cn (mx5.zte.com.cn [63.217.80.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B8E1A0074; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:34:23 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from zte.com.cn (unknown [192.168.168.119]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTP id 95FD869038489; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:34:19 +0800 (CST)
Received: from mse01.zte.com.cn (unknown [10.30.3.20]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id E39036C8F80CE; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:34:18 +0800 (CST)
Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse01.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id t6V9Y6Jk092811; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:34:06 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn)
In-Reply-To: <55BA41A8.1050305@juniper.net>
To: Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005
Message-ID: <OF378B86B8.BB4B988D-ON48257E93.00316803-48257E93.00348EE6@zte.com.cn>
From: zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:33:54 +0800
X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.3FP6|November 21, 2013) at 2015-07-31 17:34:06, Serialize complete at 2015-07-31 17:34:06
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00348EE148257E93_="
X-MAIL: mse01.zte.com.cn t6V9Y6Jk092811
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/vCKqh8CtLcDqM6zAwQKNPTodJaw>
Cc: 'IDR WG' <idr@ietf.org>, Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org>, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
Subject: Re: [Idr] Comment on draft-zhang-idr-upstream-assigned-label-solution
X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing <idr.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/>
List-Post: <mailto:idr@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:34:25 -0000

Hi Eric,


Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net> 写于 2015/07/30 23:24:24:

> On 7/30/2015 5:42 AM, zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn wrote:
> 
> >      Refer to RFC5331, the context-specific label can be auto 
generated or
> > manually configured. In IPv6 environment, manually control is 
required.
> 
> Are you referring to Section 8 of RFC 5331, "Context Label on LANs"? 
> The labels discussed there are 20-bit values that uniquely identify a 
> router within the context of a particular LAN.  These are really a form 
> of domain-wide label, with the "domain" being a single LAN.  As I said 
> earlier, your draft really seems aimed at the problem of dynamically 
> assigning domain-wide unique labels, so I would agree that assigning 
> context labels on LANs is a possible application.
> 
> Note that the material from Section 8 of RFC 5331 is only applicable if 
> you are using ethernet multicast frames to carry MPLS multicast packets. 

>   I'm not sure whether there are actually any deployments of that.
> 
> > And the network service that is supposed by L3VPN, not only include 
MVPN,
> > but also include EVPN, DC interconnection, and so on.
> 
> The LAN context label only identifies a router, it is not 
> service-specific.  So you only need one per node per LAN.    (I think 
> it's a lot like a "node SID" in SPRING or a "BFIR-id" in BIER.)
> 
---I don't think that the context label is a lot like SID or BFR-id. The 
context 
label can be used to distinguish the service, such like MVPN, EVPN, DC 
interconnection, VxLAN and so on. So only one context label identifies a 
router
is not enough. More context labels are needed for different services on a 
router.

> The issue of how best to assign an identifier that is unique within a 
> certain scope is an issue that comes up in many contexts, though usually 

> it is IP addresses rather than 20-bit identifiers that need to be 
> assigned.  There are a lot of prior solutions that could be considered, 
> generally not requiring either BGP or time synchronization.
> 
> > And the p2mp and mp2mp tunnel may be used to transfer extranet
> > flow. When
> > different multicast flows which are forwarded to receivers in 
different VPN
> > are mixed into one P-tunnel, are there more conflict?
> 
> MVPN extranet does not impose any particular requirement for 
> upstream-assigned labels or domain-wide labels.

---The different flows share one P-tunnel, that will decrease the number 
of P-tunnels.
And it will make more easier for service and policy deployment of 
operators. Maybe MVPN
extranet should consider the use of upstream-assigned labels. 

Sandy