Re: [ieee-ietf-coord] [tsvwg] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt

"Tim Szigeti (szigeti)" <szigeti@cisco.com> Tue, 29 March 2016 22:39 UTC

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From: "Tim Szigeti (szigeti)" <szigeti@cisco.com>
To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, "ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org" <ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [ieee-ietf-coord] [tsvwg] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt
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Yes - you're correct. Thank Dan.

-tim

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From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 3:41 AM
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Cc: Tim Szigeti (szigeti); Fred Baker (fred); tsvwg-chairs@tools.ietf.org
Subject: RE: [tsvwg] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt

The latest version is https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01. 

Regards,

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 12:55 PM
> To: ieee-ietf-coord@ietf.org
> Cc: 'Tim Szigeti (szigeti)'; Fred Baker; 'tsvwg-chairs@tools.ietf.org'
> Subject: FW: [tsvwg] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for 
> draft-szigeti- tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is from the TSVWG mail list.
> 
> The Abstract of this I-D reads:
> 
>   As internet traffic is increasingly sourced-from and destined-to
>    wireless endpoints, it is crucial that Quality of Service be aligned
>    between wired and wireless networks; however, this is not always the
>    case by default.  This is due to the fact that two independent
>    standards bodies provide QoS guidance on wired and wireless networks:
>    specifically, the IETF specifies standards and design recommendations
>    for wired IP networks, while a separate and autonomous standards-
>    body, the IEEE, administers the standards for wireless 802.11
>    networks.  The purpose of this document is to propose a set
>    Differentiated Services Code Point (DSCP) to IEEE 802.11 User
>    Priority (UP) mappings to reconcile the marking recommendations
>    offered by these two standards bodies, and, as such, to optimize
>    wired-and-wireless interconnect QoS.
> 
> This seems to be within the scope of the coordination between the IETF 
> and IEEE 802. It may also concern DetNet. The agenda of the TSVWG 
> meeting at IETF 95 is not yet available, but from the dialog below I 
> understand that this I- D will be on the agenda.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tsvwg [mailto:tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tim Szigeti
> > (szigeti)
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:38 AM
> > To: tsvwg@ietf.org
> > Subject: [tsvwg] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for
> > draft-szigeti-tsvwg- ieee-802-11-01.txt
> >
> > Hi TSVWG,
> >
> > As the majority of clients connecting to IP networks are doing so 
> > via WLANs, and since IEEE recommendations for QoS do not align with 
> > IETF recommendations, it would be highly beneficial to have an 
> > IETF-endorsed reconciliation between IETF IP QoS and IEEE WMM QoS, 
> > which is the intent of draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11.
> >
> > Apple, Cisco and other vendors are all planning on developing 
> > solutions in the coming months based on a consistent IETF-ratified 
> > set of QoS mappings. If you have stake/opinion/feedback in making 
> > sure that QoS is handled correctly at wired/wireless edges, then 
> > please read the draft and help us pass this through.
> >
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-00
> >
> > [Otherwise, the only guidance in this area is based on non-IETF 
> > recommendations (e.g. GSMA <--> WMM)]
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > -tim
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk [mailto:gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:36 AM
> > To: Fred Baker (fred)
> > Cc: tsvwg-chairs@tools.ietf.org; Tim Szigeti (szigeti)
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for
> > draft-szigeti-tsvwg- ieee-802-11-01.txt
> >
> >
> > True. This will appear on the draft agenda. We will need to get some 
> > people sufficiently excited to allocate some cycles to read and 
> > continue to comment on the draft.
> >
> > I'm assuming you'll ask for adoption (which seems reasonable). At 
> > which point I'll ask who has read or plans to read this? Let's hope 
> > the room is not deadly quiet. We'll move on from there.
> >
> > gorry
> >
> > > I haven't heard anything from  you...
> > >
> > > Please consider this a request for an agenda slot.
> > >
> > >> Begin forwarded message:
> > >>
> > >> From: "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>
> > >> Subject: [tsvwg] Fwd: New Version Notification for 
> > >> draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt
> > >> Date: March 15, 2016 at 12:02:20 PM PDT
> > >> To: "tsvwg@ietf.org" <tsvwg@ietf.org>
> > >>
> > >>> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> > >>> Subject: New Version Notification for 
> > >>> draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt
> > >>> Date: March 15, 2016 at 11:28:58 AM PDT
> > >>> To: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>, Tim Szigeti <szigeti@cisco.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> A new version of I-D, draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11-01.txt
> > >>> has been successfully submitted by Fred Baker and posted to the 
> > >>> IETF repository.
> > >>>
> > >>> Name:		draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11
> > >>> Revision:	01
> > >>> Title:		Guidelines for DiffServ to IEEE 802.11 Mapping
> > >>> Document date:	2016-03-14
> > >>> Group:		Individual Submission
> > >>> Pages:		27
> > >>> URL: