Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6-10 - discussion request]
RJ Atkinson <rja@extremenetworks.com> Tue, 05 November 2002 20:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6-10 - discussion request]
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On Tuesday, Nov 5, 2002, at 14:13 America/Montreal, Daniel Sullivan wrote: > I think this group is working on stuff for the future. If we didn't > need to > make changes, we could shut down the IETF. How boring that would be! > :-)) I remain a little befuddled about the charter language, despite a couple of attempts by Scott to clarify. No doubt Scott will clarify the below if I err greatly. However, *this particular group* is supposed to focus on how one could deploy IEprep services *using existing mechanisms*. The group is specifically NOT supposed to work on protocol design or changes to IETF protocol specs. So the focus of this group is how can we do IEprep stuff *today* (not in some indefinite future) using *existing* mechanisms. So work on changing things is legitimate for the IETF, but not particularly the focus of this particular working group. As an example, this group is offering input to SIP WG. SIP WG can then choose whether or not to make any changes and also which changes it wants to make. So I'd say that if there are particular changes one wants to make to IETF protocols, then one should take those up in the *normal* IETF manner: - show up at the applicable other WG - explain what one wants and why one wants it - write an Internet-Draft outlining one's proposal - try to persuade that WG community to make those changes - work with the normal process of the IETF No doubt Scott will correct any confusion in the above. Ran rja@extremenetworks.com _______________________________________________ Ieprep mailing list Ieprep@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ieprep
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Daniel Sullivan
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… RJ Atkinson
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Mpierce1
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… RJ Atkinson
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Scott Bradner
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Bill Woodcock
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Mpierce1
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Bill Woodcock
- [Ieprep] Re: IETF process RJ Atkinson
- Re: [Ieprep] Re: IETF process Scott Bradner
- Re: [Ieprep] Re: IETF process RJ Atkinson
- Re: [Ieprep] Re: IETF process Scott Bradner
- Re: [Ieprep] Re: IETF process RJ Atkinson
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Mpierce1
- [Ieprep] Re: more process discussion RJ Atkinson
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Bill Woodcock
- RE: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Gary Thom
- RE: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Nguyen, An
- Re: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… RJ Atkinson
- FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - reqs 6… Gary Thom
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Gary Thom
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… RJ Atkinson
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… RJ Atkinson
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Gary Thom
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Mpierce1
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… RJ Atkinson
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… RJ Atkinson
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Ayyasamy, Senthilkumar (UMKC-Student)
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… RJ Atkinson
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Scott Bradner
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- [Ieprep] Re: QoS in the network RJ Atkinson
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Ken Carlberg
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Ken Carlberg
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… RJ Atkinson
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Scott Bradner
- [Ieprep] Measurement of Internet Congestion RJ Atkinson
- [Ieprep] Re: VoIP in Enterprise LANs RJ Atkinson
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- Re: [Ieprep] Measurement of Internet Congestion Bill Woodcock
- Re: [Ieprep] Re: VoIP in Enterprise LANs Bill Woodcock
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Scott Bradner
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ieprep] Measurement of Internet Congestion RJ Atkinson
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… RJ Atkinson
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Scott Bradner
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… RJ Atkinson
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Ayyasamy, Senthilkumar (UMKC-Student)
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Ayyasamy, Senthilkumar (UMKC-Student)
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… King, Kimberly S.
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… King, Kimberly S.
- [Ieprep] last-mile connectivity, link-state optim… RJ Atkinson
- [Ieprep] quality of measurement/simulation, rever… RJ Atkinson
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Bill Woodcock
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ieprep] quality of measurement/simulation, r… Ken Carlberg
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Mpierce1
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Scott Bradner
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Scott Bradner
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Sean Donelan
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Rex Buddenberg
- Re: FW: [Re: [Ieprep] ieprep-requirements-01 - re… Mpierce1