Re: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar
"Charles Lindsey" <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> Tue, 16 September 2008 16:12 UTC
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From: Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar
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In <g9v812$aco$1@ger.gmane.org> "Frank Ellermann" <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> writes: >Tony Hansen wrote: >>> msg-id = [CFWS] "<" msg-id-core ">" [CFWS] >>> msg-id-core = id-left "@" id-right >[...] >> But it *is* an extremely late request. >Yes, and it could cause some confusion for two (or soon >three) NetNews RFCs in the pipeline. I'd prefer to do >this later (= in the promotion to STD), and not as some >last minute hack with unclear consequences. Sorry, I have just returned from holiday to find all this fuss. I disagree totally with Frank on this one. draft-ietf-usefor-usefor-12.txt currently contains: message-id = "Message-ID:" SP *WSP msg-id *WSP CRLF msg-id = "<" msg-id-core ">" ; maximum length is 250 octets msg-id-core = id-left "@" id-right which is effectively the same as what Tony proposed, bar the usual Netnews compulsory SP after the ':'. We currently have the situation whereby <message-id> is differently defined in the two documents, so I cannot see why Frank should object to having <msg-id-core> defined differently in the two places (in fact, in USEFOR it is <id-left> and <id-right) which are defined differently). >There can be only one <msg-id-core>, and it's specified >in an approved NetNews RFC at the moment. Referenced >in an approved news URI RFC, and in the now Last Called >NetNews protocol. My own personal preference, now that 2822-bis has tidied the syntax of <msg-id> to the extent that only one very minor difference exists from what USEFOR should be like, would be to pull back the USEFOR draft and rebase it on 2822-bis (which would remove from it some exceedingly ugly syntax which, with the new 2822-bis, is now totally unnecessary). But that is a matter for the USEFOR WG to decide. So this is a belated +1 for Tony's change. -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131 Fax: +44 161 436 6133 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… Pete Resnick
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… Pete Resnick
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… Tony Hansen
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… Pete Resnick
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… Tony Hansen
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… Pete Resnick
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… Pete Resnick
- Re: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar Charles Lindsey
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… ned+ietf-822
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… Dave CROCKER
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar - cons… Tony Hansen
- Re: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar Frank Ellermann
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar SM
- Re: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar Frank Ellermann
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar Jeff Macdonald
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar Abhijit Menon-Sen
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar Dave CROCKER
- Fw: requested tweak to 2822upd grammar Tony Hansen