Re: [ietf-822] a detour into SPF, was Mailing lists - assumptions
Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Mon, 21 April 2014 05:23 UTC
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From: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>
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Subject: Re: [ietf-822] a detour into SPF, was Mailing lists - assumptions
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> >Yes indeedy. Looks to me like bog-standard SRS. ... > >At present draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis has this to say about the issue: > > > > o Mediators can solve the problem by rewriting the "MAIL FROM" to be > > in their own domain. This means mail rejected from the external > > mailbox will have to be forwarded back to the original sender by > > the forwarding service. Various schemes to do this exist though > > they vary widely in complexity and resource requirements on the > > part of the mediator. > > > >Does anyone seriously think this provides the necessary guidance to an > >autoforwarder developer/administrator faced with wholesale rejection of their > >forwarded mail due to SPF? Because I certainly don't. > Nobody brought it up in SPFBIS that I can recall. SRS has been around > for a decade, and I only see it in a few academic mail forwarders and > one web host's mail gateway. The problem that SRS solves evidently > isn't one that people care enough about very much. Well, I don't claim to speak for the Internet, but there's been a fair bit of interest in the SRS support we provide in our product... And that's from my perspective; I only hear about what people are using when they have a problem setting it up, find a bug, etc. Ned
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