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Re: [Ietf-and-github] Heavy and light mode text

Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 10 September 2019 11:52 UTC

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There are parts that I like about GitHub for this kind of work, but discussions and collaboration are not them. Seeing everyone’s suggested text all at once is critical. 

In my utopian world you would have something _like_ GoogleDocs that was connected to github.  So you could do live collaboration and comments in the document and see everyone’s suggestions all at once, then have a way to push that markdown text to GitHub automagically.  This would give day-by-day, week-by-week, or draft-by-draft version tracking. 

Bret 

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> On Sep 9, 2019, at 10:36 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> "I am probably incapable of seeing what a truly light option looks like." [Martin]
> 
> IMNSHO it means using GH only as a repository for intermediate versions, and using email for *all* discussion. Personally I find GH a very inconvenient mechanism for discussion compared to email threads, so I am at one end of the spectrum described at https://github.com/ietf-gitwg/using-github/pull/15#issuecomment-526450315. I think Martin is correct that each WG could find its own sweet spot.
> 
> Regards
>   Brian
> 
>> On 10-Sep-19 04:04, Christopher Wood wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> As discussed during our last meeting, Martin proposed some text further describing heavy and light modes [1]. Please have a look and comment here (or on the Pull Request) as you see fit. Barring objections, we'll merge these changes at the end of the week, and continue iterating on Barbara's proposed "ultra light" mode afterwards.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>> 
>> [1] https://github.com/ietf-gitwg/using-github/pull/15
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