Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting re-chartering questions
Steve Atkins <steve@wordtothewise.com> Mon, 25 January 2010 18:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting re-chartering questions
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On Jan 25, 2010, at 8:51 AM, John Levine wrote: >>> 1. Advance DKIM base to Draft Standard >> >> I'd require Yahoo! Inc's IPR to be upgraded to the current GPL release >> before that. (See https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/693/) > > The reference to the GPL looks to me like it only covers the old > Sourceforge DK library, which I don't think anyone uses any more. The > patent, which is what's important, is covered by a separate license > that Yahoo wrote. > > Even if Yahoo were willing, this would involve negotiations with their > lawyers which always takes a long time. What would be the advantage > to anyone of demanding license changes for obsolete code? It's more of an issue than that. The licensing declaration allows anyone to use the IP contained in Yahoos patents under one of two licenses. One is the "DomainKeys Patent License[1]" - which only applies to implementations of DomainKeys, and doesn't apply to any DKIM implementation, if I'm reading it correctly. Specifically, if you're not implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01.txt, it doesn't apply. The other is the "GNU General Public License 2.0" which can't really be applied to an IP release in a useful manner, as it's really a source code license (I'm allowed to use the IP, as long as I make the source code for any changes to the IP available to any user of the IP... Uhm, what?). OTOH, the licensing for DomainKeys has been a trainwreck since that was put together, and Yahoo haven't sued anyone yet, nor has anyone been seriously discouraged from implementing it, AFAIK. Cheers, Steve [1] http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/license/patentlicense1-2.html _______________________________________________ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html
- [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Barry Leiba
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions John Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Daniel Black
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Wietse Venema
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Eliot Lear
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Steve Atkins
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Jon Callas
- Re: [ietf-dkim] re-chartering to handle 3rd party… Douglas Otis
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting r… John Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting r… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting r… Steve Atkins
- Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting r… John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions MH Michael Hammer (5304)
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Jeff Macdonald
- Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting r… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting r… John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting r… Steve Atkins
- Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting r… John Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting r… Bill.Oxley
- Re: [ietf-dkim] IPR disclosures, was Collecting r… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions J.D. Falk
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Jim Fenton
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Collecting re-chartering questions Barry Leiba