Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades
Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Mon, 23 May 2011 01:43 UTC
Return-Path: <ietf-dkim-bounces@mipassoc.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-ietf-dkim-archive@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-ietf-dkim-archive@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1AEE06A4 for <ietfarch-ietf-dkim-archive@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 22 May 2011 18:43:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -5.386
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.386 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.613, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_72=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qu0CtTaAPV5D for <ietfarch-ietf-dkim-archive@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 22 May 2011 18:43:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6931CE06DC for <ietf-dkim-archive@ietf.org>; Sun, 22 May 2011 18:43:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [127.0.0.1]) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4MLOeaH008179; Sun, 22 May 2011 14:24:46 -0700
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=mipassoc.org; s=k00001; t=1306099491; bh=SGWH2YTtduLYs8Dk9xirPuweNCg=; h=Message-ID:Date: From:MIME-Version:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Sender; b=Sj9DZrHiZgGHzJ1+A G6jsIIXU9c9VlUCxPkAudnyL1eXSYPtvkIFXTLzP90CoHOf1Mq5sCrv+ZHKHU1SDvWq jBJdtpzmGEFpfPqtu1tApoH8muRWGExqnh0ttopcaZ10uSg84l7MTV06HfLQlaPj1l+ 7JegjB6tk9gfKGuceIsA=
Received: from mail.santronics.com (dkim.winserver.com [208.247.131.9]) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p4MLOWui008173 for <ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org>; Sun, 22 May 2011 14:24:37 -0700
Authentication-Results: sbh17.songbird.com; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.i=@isdg.net
Received: by winserver.com (Wildcat! SMTP Router v6.3.453.5) for ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 17:24:28 -0400
Received: from beta.winserver.com (opensite.winserver.com [208.247.131.23]) by winserver.com (Wildcat! SMTP v6.3.453.5) with ESMTP id 3144959830.16637.1296; Sun, 22 May 2011 17:24:27 -0400
Received: by beta.winserver.com (Wildcat! SMTP Router v6.3.453.2) for ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org; Sun, 22 May 2011 17:21:54 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([99.3.147.93]) by beta.winserver.com (Wildcat! SMTP v6.3.453.2) with ESMTP id 4116284000; Sun, 22 May 2011 17:21:50 -0400
Message-ID: <4DD97F41.8060909@isdg.net>
Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 17:25:21 -0400
From: Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net>
Organization: Santronics Software, Inc.
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org" <ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org>
References: <F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F134331A5B6@EXCH-C2.corp.cloudmark.com> <4DD920F1.2090703@dcrocker.net> <4DD94B41.4020700@isdg.net> <F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F134331A630@EXCH-C2.corp.cloudmark.com>
In-Reply-To: <F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F134331A630@EXCH-C2.corp.cloudmark.com>
X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 22 May 2011 14:24:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.70]); Sun, 22 May 2011 14:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades
X-BeenThere: ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DKIM Discussion List <ietf-dkim.mipassoc.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://mipassoc.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-dkim>, <mailto:ietf-dkim-request@mipassoc.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mipassoc.org/pipermail/ietf-dkim>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-dkim-request@mipassoc.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://mipassoc.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-dkim>, <mailto:ietf-dkim-request@mipassoc.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: ietf-dkim-bounces@mipassoc.org
Errors-To: ietf-dkim-bounces@mipassoc.org
Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > Hector Santos followed up Crocker'ss passing of the buck: >> >> Please refrain from passing the buck to the WG. The document editors >> are: >> >> D. Crocker (editor) >> Tony Hansen (editor) >> M. Kucherawy (editor) >> >> If the WG was technically incapable as you are implying, then the >> *onus* was on the editors to make sure it was writing correctly. > > Given that it's been pointed out the use of SHOULD in this case > is entirely appropriate, I'm happy to accept blame on behalf of > the other authors for getting it right. With all due respect, for the record, actually it was the original editors/authors: E. Allman J. Callas M. Delany M. Libbey J. Fenton M. Thomas with the April 2006 draft-ietf-dkim-base-00 original text. Updated in August 2006 base-05 draft update to clarify the 2nd paragraph in particular regarding Unix (LF) vs DOS (CRLF) translation requirements, and it (correctly) has remained that way since then. This unfortunate issue is with new editors trying to change it and then labeling the WG for not understanding RFC2119 as a reason. -- Hector Santos, CTO http://www.santronics.com http://santronics.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html
- [ietf-dkim] dot-forward, was 8bit downgrades Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Franck Martin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Steve Atkins
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Pete Resnick
- [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Wietse Venema
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Michael Thomas
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Scott Kitterman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Michael Thomas
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Pete Resnick
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades John Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Michael Thomas
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Michael Thomas
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Pete Resnick
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Franck Martin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] EAI and 8bit downgrades Douglas Otis
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Scott Kitterman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades John Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades J.D. Falk
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Michael Deutschmann
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ietf-dkim] EAI and 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Scott Kitterman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Scott Kitterman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Franck Martin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Rolf E. Sonneveld
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades SM
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades John Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] dot-forward, was 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] dot-forward, was 8bit downgrades Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Rolf E. Sonneveld
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- [ietf-dkim] Perfect Solution (FDS), was dot-forwa… Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Steve Atkins
- [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Franck Martin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Franck Martin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- [ietf-dkim] No signatures, bad signatures, cousin… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] No signatures, bad signatures, co… Michael Thomas
- Re: [ietf-dkim] No signatures, bad signatures, co… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Scott Kitterman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] signature breakage, DKIM Scouts, … John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Murray S. Kucherawy
- [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Steve Atkins
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Dave CROCKER
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Franck Martin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Steve Atkins
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Franck Martin
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Steve Atkins
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again John Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again John Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Steve Atkins
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Scott Kitterman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again MH Michael Hammer (5304)
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Scott Kitterman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Scott Kitterman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Scott Kitterman
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again MH Michael Hammer (5304)
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Murray S. Kucherawy
- [ietf-dkim] Triple opt-in, was MLMs and signature… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Hector Santos
- Re: [ietf-dkim] the non-problem of contributor si… John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] DKIM Scouts, was 8bit downgrades Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] MLMs and signatures again Ian Eiloart
- Re: [ietf-dkim] EAI and 8bit downgrades Jiankang Yao
- Re: [ietf-dkim] EAI and 8bit downgrades Wietse Venema
- Re: [ietf-dkim] EAI and 8bit downgrades John R. Levine
- Re: [ietf-dkim] EAI and 8bit downgrades Franck Martin