Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call
Douglas Otis <dotis@mail-abuse.org> Fri, 18 May 2007 16:39 UTC
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From: Douglas Otis <dotis@mail-abuse.org>
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus call
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:37:54 -0700
To: Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk>
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On May 18, 2007, at 6:03 AM, Charles Lindsey wrote: > > Well do we know exactly how much Babel there is? John Leslie published this list on the IETF reflector: rfc0733 obs-by rfc0822 rfc0822 defs LWSP-char = SPACE / HTAB obs-by rfc2822 rfc0987 refs rfc0822 rfc1138 refs rfc0822 rfc1148 refs rfc0822 rfc1327 refs rfc0822 rfc1486 refs rfc0822 rfc1505 refs rfc0822 rfc1528 refs rfc0822 rfc1848 defs <LWSP-char> ::= SPACE / HTAB rfc2017 refs rfc0822 rfc2045 refs rfc0822 rfc2046 refs rfc0822 rfc2110 refs rfc0822 rfc2156 refs rfc0822 rfc2184 refs rfc0822 rfc2231 refs rfc0822 rfc2234 defs LWSP = *(WSP / CRLF WSP) obs-by rfc4234 rfc2243 refs rfc0822 rfc2378 defs LWSP-char = SP | TAB rfc2530 refs rfc2234 rfc2885 defs LWSP = *(WSP / COMMENT / EOL) rfc3015 defs LWSP = *(WSP / COMMENT / EOL) rfc3259 defs LWSP = *(WSP / CRLF WSP) rfc3501 refs rfc2234 rfc3525 defs LWSP = *(WSP / COMMENT / EOL) rfc3875 defs LWSP = SP | HT | NL rfc4234 defs LWSP = *(WSP / CRLF WSP) rfc4646 refs rfc2434 > If we deprecate LWSP for future use, then the remaining problem is > the set of existing standards that rely on it (plus a few that have > redefined it/whatever, but those are not strictly relying on it). Deprecating LWSP would not _remove_ or _redefine_ this macro. The deprecation note could simply state this construct often is problematic when addressing security issues or when dealing with trailing whitespace. Any future use of this construct should be locally defined with a different mnemonic, and preferably employ a different construct where possible. Any existing standard would simply reference a deprecated, existing, and unchanged definition that has been deprecated by such a note. -Doug _______________________________________________ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Eric Allman
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Lisa Dusseault
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Tony Hansen
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Tony Finch
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Dave Crocker
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Frank Ellermann
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … ned+dkim
- RE: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Bill.Oxley
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Dave Crocker
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Douglas Otis
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Keith Moore
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Frank Ellermann
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Charles Lindsey
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Tony Finch
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Douglas Otis
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Frank Ellermann
- Re: [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consen… Charles Lindsey
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Frank Ellermann
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Lisa Dusseault
- [ietf-dkim] Re: Use of LWSP in ABNF -- consensus … Lisa Dusseault