Re: [Ietf-languages] Latgalian variant request (was: RE: LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM)

Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> Tue, 07 June 2022 21:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Latgalian variant request (was: RE: LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM)
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Here are the latest proposed record and registration form for variant subtag 'ltg2007', as well as an updated registration form for the subtag 'vecdruka' (added in September 2020) as requested by Mr. Soshinskiy.

The review period for the new subtag runs through Tuesday, June 21 AoE. So far, there have not been any comments on the subtag itself.

The updated form for 'vecdruka' is editorial only, and does not affect the Registry. Readers can compare the form below with the original form from 2020 [1] to confirm this. We have no precedent for this type of change, and RFC 5646 does not describe any review period for it, so the Reviewer will need to decide what review period (if any) he feels is appropriate.

[1] https://www.iana.org/assignments/lang-subtags-templates/vecdruka.txt

---

LANGUAGE SUBTAG MODIFICATION
File-Date: 2022-xx-xx
%%
Type: variant
Subtag: ltg2007
Description: The Latgalian language orthography codified in the language
  law in 2007
Added: 2022-xx-xx
Prefix: ltg
%%

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LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
1. Name of requester: Leonid Soshinskiy
2. E-mail address of requester: soshial+ietf€gmail.com
3. Record Requested:

Type: variant
Subtag: ltg2007
Description: The Latgalian language orthography codified in the language
  law in 2007
Prefix: ltg

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

The official orthography of the Latgalian language codified in 2007.

5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):

-- The law (of the Latvian State) that codifies Latgalian language:
   https://likumi.lv/ta/id/164904-par-latgaliesu-rakstibas-noteikumiem
-- Contrasting comparison of the 2007 and the 1929 orthographies:
   LR Tīslītu ministrejis Vaļsts volūdys centrs "Latgalīšu
   pareizraksteibys nūsacejumi", 2008 http://termi.lv/lg/

6. Any other relevant information:

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LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
1. Name of requester: Leonid Soshinskiy
2. E-mail address of requester: soshial+ietf€gmail.com
3. Record Requested:

Type: variant
Subtag: vecdruka
Description: Latvian orthography used before 1920s ("vecā druka")
Prefix: lv
Comments: The subtag represents the old orthography of the Latvian
  language used during c. 1600s–1920s.

4. Intended meaning of the subtag:

This orthography was first described in 1863 by August Bielenstein in
his book "Die lettische Sprache, nach ihren Lauten und Formen". The
orthography was official for the Latvian language until a new
orthography was approved in 1908 and fully adopted in 1930.

5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article):

-- Pēteris Vanags. LATVIEŠU VALODA PIRMS LATVIJAS VALSTS (link:
https://www.president.lv/storage/kcfinder/files/VVK_Raksti%2C_10._sejuma_fails.pdf)
-- August Bielenstein. Die lettische Sprache, nach ihren Lauten und
Formen -- Riga: 1863–1864
-- Rīgas Latviešu biedrības Zinību Komisijas Ortogrāfijas Komisija.
«Uzaicinājums latviešu pareizrakstības reformas lietā» – 1908. – Nr.
263. – 12. (25.) nov.
-- Ina Druviete. „Kārlis Mīlenbahs”, -- Riga: Zinātne, 1990 (chapter
"Vienotai rakstībai un izrunai", link:
http://www.vvk.lv/index.php?sadala=192&id=620)

6. Any other relevant information:


--
Doug Ewell, CC, ALB | Lakewood, CO, US | ewellic.org


From: Lenny Soshinskiy <soshial@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 22:56
To: Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org>
Cc: ietf-languages@iana.org
Subject: Re: Latgalian variant request (was: RE: LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM)

May I ask you to change my name and email in my first request of 2020 to the name/surname and email that I sent in this request, please :)

Also, looks like this mail-list is public, so it probably wasn't very wise to put my email as is, was it? :)