Re: [Ietf-languages] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: language variant subtag "tongyong" addition request (for Chinese langugaes romanization)

Does adding information to Wikipedia help ease the acceptance of new tags?
are IETF decisions based on Wikiality?.
 Wikiality: the idea that “any user can change any entry, and if enough
users (editors) agree with them it becomes true.”

I am repeatedly struck by the inability of undergraduate students to cite
wikipedia in Academic papers, but the ability of the IT and informatics
industry to cite wikipedia.

My favorite article about article about Wikiality:
https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/how-a-raccoon-became-an-aardvark

If it was "official in Taiwan from 2002-2008" then can we please cite the
legislation, rule, or order which made it official? This makes our rational
much more solid, and our defensible position (and related documentation)
much more useful to those doing script and orthography related research
work.

all the best,

On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 9:53 AM Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> wrote:

> Should we review the lengthy discussions that took place here from August
> to October 2008, and revisited in September 2009, concerning the ‘pinyin’
> subtag and whether or not Tongyong was included in its meaning?
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> Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org
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> *From: *Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, December 28, 2018 8:16
> *To: *IETF Languages Discussion <ietf-languages@iana.org>
> *Subject: *[Ietf-languages] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: language variant subtag
> "tongyong" addition request (for Chinese langugaes romanization)
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> I’m minded to approve this, though it should at leaast have this reference:
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongyong_Pinyin
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> and state that it was official in Taiwan from 2002-2008.
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> > On 21 Dec 2018, at 09:29, Phake Nick <c933103@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > 1. Name of requester: Phake Nick
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> > 2. E-mail address of requester: c933103@gmail.com
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> > 3. Record Requested:
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> >
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> > Type: variant
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> > Subtag: tongyong
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> > Description: Tongyong Pinyin romanization
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> > Prefix: zh-Latn
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> > Prefix: hak-Latn
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> > Prefix: nan-Latn
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> > Comments: Former official transcription standard for Mandarin Chinese,
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> > Taiwanese Min-Nan, and variant of Hakka language in Taiwan.
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> >
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> > 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: Indicate Romanized content that use
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> > Tongyong pinyin romanization
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> > 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or
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> > article):
> https://medium.com/@lovenery/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E7%9A%84%E6%8B%BC%E9%9F%B3%E5%A4%A7%E6%88%B0-acfe429c071d
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> > (Chinese article on medium, can be read via Google Translate, note
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> > that Google Translate currently translated "Tongyong pinyin" into
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> > "Universal pinyin" and translated "Wade-Giles" into Wittoma/Westin)
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> > 6. Any other relevant information: The transcription standard was
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> > official in Taiwan in the mid-2000s. It have now been displaced by
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> > Pinyin romanization as the official transcription rule for Chinese
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> > languages in Taiwan, however it is still continually being used to
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> > certain extent within Taiwan and thus it could/would be helpful to
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> > have a variant subtag to separate it from Pinyin romanization.
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> >
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