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Re: [Ietf-languages] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: language variant subtag "tongyong" addition request (for Chinese langugaes romanization)

Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> Fri, 28 December 2018 17:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: language variant subtag "tongyong" addition request (for Chinese langugaes romanization)
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Should we review the lengthy discussions that took place here from August to October 2008, and revisited in September 2009, concerning the ‘pinyin’ subtag and whether or not Tongyong was included in its meaning?

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Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org

From: Michael Everson
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 8:16
To: IETF Languages Discussion
Subject: [Ietf-languages] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: language variant subtag "tongyong" addition request (for Chinese langugaes romanization)

I’m minded to approve this, though it should at leaast have this reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongyong_Pinyin

and state that it was official in Taiwan from 2002-2008.

> On 21 Dec 2018, at 09:29, Phake Nick <c933103@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 1. Name of requester: Phake Nick
> 2. E-mail address of requester: c933103@gmail.com
> 3. Record Requested:
> 
> Type: variant
> Subtag: tongyong
> Description: Tongyong Pinyin romanization
> Prefix: zh-Latn
> Prefix: hak-Latn
> Prefix: nan-Latn
> Comments: Former official transcription standard for Mandarin Chinese,
> Taiwanese Min-Nan, and variant of Hakka language in Taiwan.
> 
> 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: Indicate Romanized content that use
> Tongyong pinyin romanization
> 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or
> article): https://medium.com/@lovenery/%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E7%9A%84%E6%8B%BC%E9%9F%B3%E5%A4%A7%E6%88%B0-acfe429c071d
> (Chinese article on medium, can be read via Google Translate, note
> that Google Translate currently translated "Tongyong pinyin" into
> "Universal pinyin" and translated "Wade-Giles" into Wittoma/Westin)
> 6. Any other relevant information: The transcription standard was
> official in Taiwan in the mid-2000s. It have now been displaced by
> Pinyin romanization as the official transcription rule for Chinese
> languages in Taiwan, however it is still continually being used to
> certain extent within Taiwan and thus it could/would be helpful to
> have a variant subtag to separate it from Pinyin romanization.
> 
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