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RE: Language Subtag Registration -- "wpsimple"

Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> Fri, 30 October 2015 15:22 UTC

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From: Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>
To: Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>, ietflang IETF Languages Discussion <ietf-languages@iana.org>
Subject: RE: Language Subtag Registration -- "wpsimple"
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I think that generalization would not be helpful. Once you do that, then foo-wpsimple becomes available for anybody to use with absolutely no convention as to what "wpsimple" is supposed to mean, making it basically useless except in a private context.


Peter

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Subject: Re: Language Subtag Registration -- "wpsimple"

On 30 Oct 2015, at 01:54, Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> We should have variant subtags that refer to a particular variety. I don't mind if that variety happens to be one associated with a particular organization or application, so long as it has potential utility beyond that organization or application.

I have already said that wpsimple would be extensible to other Wikimedia Foundation variants. 

Michael
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