Re: [ietf-nomcom] While I have you all here - size of the Nomcom voting members?

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Sat, 05 August 2023 15:29 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>, Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com>
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When you count the liaisons, NomCom is 17.  The IESG is 19, and three are from AMS/IANA. It’s not like the old days where we could just meet at the July and November IETFs and get all the work done.  It would be nice to have reserves or backups, although that opens a huge set of issues about replacing.  I just don’t think increasing the size is feasible.