Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic-01.txt
Markus Stumpf <maex-lists-email-ietf-smtp@Space.Net> Mon, 23 May 2005 16:13 UTC
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Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:13:24 +0200
From: Markus Stumpf <maex-lists-email-ietf-smtp@Space.Net>
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Subject: Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic-01.txt
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On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 10:19:23AM -0500, wayne wrote: > > The IESG intent at the closing of MARID was that the various drafts > > be submitted by individuals for "Experimental" status. > > That is fine and dandy, but irrelevant for SPF. SPF was never adopted > by the MARID WG and was never a MARID I-D. That the authors of the > MARID drafts chose not to submit draft-ietf-marid-protocol-* is > mostly their problem. http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.asrg.smtpverify As per MARID charter, the IRTF chair and the chairs of the ASRG received a request from the IESG to submit the LMAP proposals and the LMAP discussion document to the RFC Editor for publication. We are planning on submitting the proposals as experimental RFCs and the LMAP discussion document as informational RFC. The following proposals will be submitted: MTAMARK - draft-stumpf-dns-mtamark-01.txt DRIP - draft-brand-drip-02.txt RMX - draft-danisch-dns-rr-smtp-03.txt DMP - draft-fecyk-dmp-01.txt SPF - draft-mengwong-spf-00.txt FSV - draft-levine-fsv-00.txt This was confirmed by the IESG (can't find the meeting minutes right now). \Maex -- SpaceNet AG | Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 | Fon: +49 (89) 32356-0 Research & Development | D-80807 Muenchen | Fax: +49 (89) 32356-299 "The security, stability and reliability of a computer system is reciprocally proportional to the amount of vacuity between the ears of the admin"
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Robert A. Rosenberg
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Hector Santos
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Hector Santos
- Is it really FUD? [Re: "Header Reordering", yet a… Hector Santos
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Hector Santos
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Hector Santos
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Hector Santos
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Robert A. Rosenberg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Frank Ellermann
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again David MacQuigg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again william(at)elan.net
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again David MacQuigg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again David MacQuigg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again David MacQuigg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Frank Ellermann
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Paul Smith
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Hector Santos
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Paul Smith
- Re: MTAMARK Frank Ellermann
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Robert A. Rosenberg
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Robert A. Rosenberg
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Bruce Lilly
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Markus Stumpf
- Re: Chain of Trusted Forwarders David MacQuigg
- Re: Chain of Trusted Forwarders David MacQuigg
- Re: Chain of Trusted Forwarders Robert A. Rosenberg
- Re: Chain of Trusted Forwarders John Leslie
- Re: Chain of Trusted Forwarders Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: Chain of Trusted Forwarders Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: Chain of Trusted Forwarders Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Frank Ellermann
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Frank Ellermann
- Re: Chain of Trusted Forwarders David MacQuigg
- Re: Chain of Trusted Forwarders David MacQuigg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: Chain of Trusted Forwarders Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: "CSV" [not comma-separated values] Dave Crocker
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again John Leslie
- Chain of Trusted Forwarders David MacQuigg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again David MacQuigg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again David MacQuigg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Dave Crocker
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Dave Crocker
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Certified Server Validation (was: "CSV" [not comm… Frank Ellermann
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again David MacQuigg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again David MacQuigg
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Paul Smith
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Lyndon Nerenberg
- Re: "CSV" [not comma-separated values] Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Paul Smith
- Re: "CSV" [not comma-separated values] wayne
- Re: "CSV" [not comma-separated values] Bruce Lilly
- Re: "CSV" [not comma-separated values] ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: "CSV" [not comma-separated values] Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "Header Reordering", yet again David MacQuigg
- Re: "CSV" [not comma-separated values] ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: "CSV" [not comma-separated values] Tony Finch
- Re: "CSV" [not comma-separated values] Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: "Envelope", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: "CSV" [not comma-separated values] Tony Finch
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Robert A. Rosenberg
- Re: "Envelope", yet again John C Klensin
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Hector Santos
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- "CSV" [not comma-separated values] Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Robert A. Rosenberg
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Robert A. Rosenberg
- LMAP systems wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: MTAMARK etc. Frank Ellermann
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Tony Finch
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Paul Smith
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Arnt Gulbrandsen
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Tony Finch
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: MTAMARK etc. Bruce Lilly
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Tony Finch
- Re: proposed Received-SPF trace header wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Robert A. Rosenberg
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Bruce Lilly
- Re: MTAMARK (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-schli… Markus Stumpf
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: misdirected bounces Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: misdirected bounces (was: SPF I-D for review:… ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: misdirected bounces (was: SPF I-D for review:… Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Envelope", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: "Envelope", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: misdirected bounces (was: SPF I-D for review:… John Leslie
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… John Leslie
- Re: "Envelope", yet again John Leslie
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: misdirected bounces (was: SPF I-D for review:… Markus Stumpf
- Re: "Envelope", yet again Tony Finch
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Markus Stumpf
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: "Envelope", yet again John Leslie
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Hector Santos
- "Envelope", yet again Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Markus Stumpf
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: proposed Received-SPF trace header Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- proposed Received-SPF trace header John Leslie
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… John Leslie
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Frank Ellermann
- Intended status (was: SPF I-D for review: draft-s… Frank Ellermann
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… wayne
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… ned+ietf-smtp
- Re: SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic… Bruce Lilly
- SPF I-D for review: draft-schlitt-spf-classic-01.… wayne