Re: draft-fanf-dane-smtp
Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Wed, 30 May 2012 02:12 UTC
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From: Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net>
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Subject: Re: draft-fanf-dane-smtp
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Tony Finch wrote:
> Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> wrote:
>> I guess, if anything else, there are two client suggestions to highlight:
>>
>> - Automated MTA (router)
>> - Interactive MUA smtp client
>
> The draft is for inter-domain SMTP so message submission is out of scope.
> I don't think I can make this clearer.
>
> Tony.
Oh, so that is what you meant by "inter-domain." I am not use to
using that term within the confines of mail systems but it fits.
Other terms are "routers," "relays," etc or just MTA. I prefer router.
Inter-domain SMTP: SMTP between different ADMDs across the public
Internet, where a client sends mail to a publicly-referenced SMTP
server.
I suggest to add an i.e.
i.e. a router, relaying MTA, not an MUA with a possible interactive
CN vs Host domain checking method where the HUMAN is involved.
Anyway, ironically, we are having a related thread now in our support
forum regarding a sysop asking about self-signed vs CA signed certs.
My question is:
If the client has to be modified to do this extra TLSA check, then why
not just add login to do a CA 3rd party repository? Or support OCSP
(Online Certificate Status Protocol) RFC2560?
When change is proposed, then it has to have a payoff. A client
trusting a self-signed signature is going to be pre-defined or
pre-arranged or known upfront.
--
HLS
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