Re: [ietf-types] [payload] Video media-types insufficient?
Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Mon, 28 May 2012 06:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ietf-types] [payload] Video media-types insufficient?
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Hi, Roni, if I understand correctly this is about the ISO based mp4 file format and not the RTP payload format. Thus not really a question for the Payload WG. My question to Paul, does you and the browser use the codecs and profiles parameter that are defined for this type. Please see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6381.txt That is intended to more detailed express which profiles and codecs that are included in the media type. Cheers Magnus On 2012-05-26 11:53, Roni Even wrote: > Hi, > I think this should be discussed in payload WG > Roni Even > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ietf-types-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-types-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of Paul Libbrecht >> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:28 AM >> To: IANA Media types >> Subject: [ietf-types] Video media-types insufficient? >> >> >> hello dear Media-types' expert, >> >> the other day, I played with the nifty new video element of HTML5 which >> seems to be fairly well implemented. This element allows a list of >> sources together with their media-type so that the browser can find the >> "video format" that it can play. >> This element is perfectly following the idea of a media-type's >> characterization of an exploitable format. >> >> However, this characterization is insufficient: the same media-type for >> videos can be encode data in multiple codecs and these are not encoded >> in media-types: >> >> I met this while using the video/mp4 media-type and realized that our >> default encoding, the mpeg4 codec, did not play in iPad. >> So I used the same video element, with a src of media-type pointing to >> an mp4 file that uses the h264 codec. This one plays on iPad. >> >> To me, this is a clear failure of the media-type video/mp4: it does not >> express sufficiently the playability on a device. >> >> Is this something well known? >> Are there maybe media-type parameters that could help? >> Are newer video media-types better on this respect? >> >> thanks in advance >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> ietf-types mailing list >> ietf-types@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-types > > _______________________________________________ > payload mailing list > payload@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/payload > > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- [ietf-types] Video media-types insufficient? Paul Libbrecht
- Re: [ietf-types] Video media-types insufficient? Roni Even
- Re: [ietf-types] [payload] Video media-types insu… Magnus Westerlund