Six months in: evaluation of the last-call mailing list experiment

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Thu, 30 April 2020 15:01 UTC

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Subject: Six months in: evaluation of the last-call mailing list experiment
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It's been around six months since we started the <last-call@ietf.org>
list, and we said that we would evaluate the results after six months.
To that end, the IESG would like to see comments about how it's been
working.

Please respond to this thread to comment.  It would be helpful if the
first line of your comment gave a succinct view of your opinion on the
following 5-to-1 scale:

5: Perfect!  Don't even think about going back!
4: I really like it and want to keep it.
3: Neutral: I don't care either way.
2: I don't like it, but I can live with it if we decide to keep it.
1: It's terrible!  Please, please go back to the old way!

And, of course, if you have further comments beyond those numbers,
include those as well.  We want to know what you think.  Comments,
please, in the next couple of weeks, by 15 May.  Thanks!

Barry, for the IESG