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Re: Some more thoughts about language and what to do next

Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> Fri, 31 July 2020 16:34 UTC

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From: Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se>
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Subject: Re: Some more thoughts about language and what to do next
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 18:34:05 +0200
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> 31 juli 2020 kl. 16:33 skrev Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>:
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>>   At the same time, let’s seek more guidance about all of this from experts and develop a real decision framework that is based on firm ground, as it were.  Once we get that we iterate.
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> Yes.
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> Except maybe we can stop using particularly egregious words, as indicated by consensus.
> 

Isn’t such consensus something that develops in society, outside in the IETF? I certainly never had to read an I-D to figure out I shouldn’t write “lapp” in a technical document even though it is a great translation of “patch” to Swedish. That knowledge came to me from interacting with other humans.

I personally think that if we need the IESG to tell us how to speak and behave we have a dysfunctional culture in the IETF and that won’t get fixed by further arguing over documents or standing up IANA registries.

Leif

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