Re: Reducing parallel meeting slots
Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> Thu, 05 August 2004 13:26 UTC
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Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:21:35 -0400
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>>>>> "Iljitsch" == Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com> writes:
Iljitsch> ...it doesn't address the problem of overlapping
Iljitsch> sessions. Sessions are going to overlap. This is only a
Iljitsch> problem when people want to attend more than one during
Iljitsch> any particular slot. The fact that people want to attend a
Iljitsch> session makes it highly unlikely that such a session is so
Iljitsch> unproductive that scrapping it alltoghether would be
Iljitsch> better. (I don't believe IETFers are so stupid they keep
Iljitsch> showing up for unproductive sessions.)
I can think of a number of BOFs, and even some WGs that are very well
attended, but have not made any progress.
My original contention was that these groups are either stuck, or they
have the *wrong amount* of face time. They get two hours, sometimes four
(over two days).
Yet, to make the decision they need to progress, they really need
three days of intensive time, and they probably need to have a smaller
(more manageable) group attending.
Finally, as has been discussed previously (particularly during our
peak, when we didn't fit in the hotels anymore), with wireless, people
can occupy seats and not pay attention.
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