Re: A Public Option for the Core

Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Tue, 11 August 2020 19:42 UTC

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From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 15:41:50 -0400
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Subject: Re: A Public Option for the Core
To: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
Cc: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>, IETF list <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 3:17 PM Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
>
> How is this different from a non-profit IX ?
>

it sounds like the proposal is effectively (to use your example) a
"global non-profit IX".

It sounds like the expectation is likely that:
  1) 'the core' operates globally as a neutral provider
  2) 'the core' offers 'transit' to end-networks (LMPs) at a cost
which is not ... usery
  3) all of the global areas have the same world view on 'Network Neutrality'

It seems ... like a pretty high lift to move from today to the utopia proposed.

> How could you prevent ISPs from purposefully ignoring the poc?
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 11, 2020, at 14:50, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Scott Shenker et al. just presented a pretty thought-provoking "public option" for the Internet's core backbone at SIGCOMM: https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3387514.3405875
> >
> > If you scroll down (or go to https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3387514.3405875#sec-supp), his recorded talk video gives a high-level overview.
> >
> > (PDF and video *should* be open access and work for me, but you never know with the ACM...)
> >
> > Lars
>