Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-04
Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> Tue, 11 April 2017 03:09 UTC
Return-Path: <job@instituut.net>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2DA129AF3 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:09:01 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.907
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.907 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, T_HTML_ATTACH=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ERndGmbfCVRg for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:08:59 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com (mail-wm0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13230129A9F for <ietf@ietf.org>; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:08:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id u2so50664441wmu.0 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:08:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=HugrvemqyWmSo0guDatVZqsttkVxqSDItpXFpYQGOmw=; b=hF4igtPsaT58gXWfEAhXVqWdc6oqEC17k0MuMCOYWw/c2Y6LpcuNIhlIJhugSiFXto Cq0aCwkHy0pmmCt2twUvyFB3/dc1h1cWSSHSSwOlTertBb6+KtRUw2EFy1Jv4pksA2tn Re9y3jr97FiHGu9Iwg5MYOo/0M/qD1HQMXlyNt5pchvFDyWu6Su8QrBByjy5eKrYnVxy r9QBAg95IidvXnkqFJGhPyS+7F47PafZcS/xaOFizlKWLRvTzhPBQnW57/KRGQpKy6nk P9uCOmKrN8MMqWTsr6X2TBM2/bTYDGpmXsSKoIAVhXE8eeBPxEA0VDy2lTHivmJQSGVv 7E8Q==
X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/4mTNv2XkXIX3ne5CvYKFe53Ymki/hSKlUBHY1WRcdtOqaXGpiL 20gl9N26xbeR8g==
X-Received: by 10.28.66.77 with SMTP id p74mr13233357wma.107.1491880131345; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:08:51 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost ([89.248.135.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r5sm19672249wra.50.2017.04.10.20.08.48 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 05:08:47 +0200
From: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>
To: Dale Worley <worley@ariadne.com>
Cc: gen-art@ietf.org, draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject.all@ietf.org, grow@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-04
Message-ID: <20170411030847.vxjgzavkwkj2ge2j@Vurt.local>
References: <149187397615.15779.7399941790518824590@ietfa.amsl.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="zhmrpzekvruzsstz"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <149187397615.15779.7399941790518824590@ietfa.amsl.com>
X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170306 (1.8.0)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/5txQeT8Kor5eLWvKarqfvhfWOcA>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 03:09:02 -0000
Dear Dale, I'd be happy to incorporate these changes. I appreciate that you clarified the text. Attached is an easy-to-read html rfcdiff which contains Dale Worley's proposed changes verbatim. Unless someone speaks up against this proposal, I'll upload this as a new -05 revision somewhere in the next few days. Kind regards, Job On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 06:26:16PM -0700, Dale Worley wrote: > Reviewer: Dale Worley > Review result: Ready with Nits > > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed > by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just > like any other last call comments. > > For more information, please see the FAQ at > <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>. > > Document: draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-04 > Reviewer: Dale R. Worley > Review Date: 2017-04-10 > IETF LC End Date: 2017-04-18 > IESG Telechat date: not scheduled > > Summary: This draft is basically ready for publication, but has nits > that should be fixed before publication. > > This is the shortest draft I've ever reviewed. There are only 41 > lines of text that contain technical content. > > My knowledge of BGP is quite limited, so I cannot review the > desirability of this solution. I assume that the routing and > operations community has fully considered that question. > > I find the wording of section 2 to be poor: > > 2. Solution Requirements > > The following requirements apply to the solution described in this > document: > > o Software MUST consider any routes ineligible for route selection > (section 9.1.1 [RFC4271]), if no import policy was configured > for the EBGP peer. > > o Software MUST NOT advertise any routes to an EBGP peer, if no > export policy was configured. > > o Software SHOULD fall back to an "import nothing" and "export > nothing" mode following failure of internal components, such as > a policy engine. > > o Software MUST operate in this mode by default. > > o Software MAY provide a configuration option to disable this > security capability. > > First, section 2 isn't the requirements for the solution, but the > requirements *on BGP speakers* constitute the solution itself. > Second, "software" seems to be a misnomer for "BGP speaker". (Compare > with RFC 4271.) Third, the interaction of the final item with the > 2119 words in the preceding items is awkward. Fourth, it seems that > "routes" in the first item should be qualified by "advertised by an > EBGP peer". In all cases, what is intended is clear, but the words > don't seem to say it well. > > Revising the phrasing, I get: > > 2. Solution > > The following requirements apply to all BGP speakers: > > o A BGP speaker MUST consider any routes advertised by an EBGP peer > ineligible for route selection (section 9.1.1 [RFC4271]), if no > import policy was configured for the peer. > > o A BGP speaker MUST NOT advertise any routes to an EBGP peer, if > no export policy was configured. > > o A BGP speaker SHOULD fall back to an "import nothing" and > "export nothing" mode following failure of internal components, > such as a policy engine. > > o A BGP speaker MAY provide a configuration option to disable the > preceding behaviors, but it MUST implement them by default.
- Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bgp-re… Dale Worley
- Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-bg… Job Snijders