Re: why can't IETF emulate IEEE on this point?

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Paul Vixie wrote:

>> You mean like:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/about/
>
> no, i was thinking of the promise not to sue, rather than the promise to
> disclose the possibility of suing.

You mean like:

Cisco is the owner of US published patent applications 20050154872 and 
20050154873 and one or more pending unpublished patent applications 
relating to the subject matter of "Transport Layer Security (TLS) Session 
Resumption without Server Side State" 
<draft-salowey-tls-rfc4507bis-01.txt>.

If technology in this document is included in a standard adopted by IETF 
and any claims of any Cisco patents are necessary for practicing the 
standard, any party will have the right to use any such patent claims 
under reasonable, non-discriminatory terms, with reciprocity, to implement 
and fully comply with the standard.

The reasonable non-discriminatory terms are:

If this standard is adopted, Cisco will not assert any patents owned or 
controlled by Cisco against any party for making, using, selling, 
importing or offering for sale a product that implements the standard, 
provided, however that Cisco retains the right to assert its patents 
(including the right to claim past royalties) against any party that 
asserts a patent it owns or controls (either directly or indirectly) 
against Cisco or any of Cisco's affiliates or successors in title or 
against any products of Cisco or any products of any of Cisco's affiliates 
either alone or in combination with other products; and Cisco retains the 
right to assert its patents against any product or portion thereof that is 
not necessary for compliance with the standard.

Royalty-bearing licenses will be available to anyone who prefers that 
option.

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This is from one of Cisco's IPR disclosures...the first I found. Seems 
pretty clear (for legal-ese) to me.

Chris.

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