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"Robert Sayre" <sayrer@gmail.com> Tue, 19 September 2006 04:42 UTC

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From: Robert Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Facts, please, not handwaving [Re: Its about mandate RE: Why cant the IETF embrace an open Election Process]
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On 9/18/06, Hallam-Baker, Phillip <pbaker@verisign.com> wrote:
>
>
> > From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brc@zurich.ibm.com]
> >
> > Let's see - HTTP/1.1 was published as Proposed Standard in
> > January 1997, and draft-ietf-http-v11-spec-00.txt was posted
> > in November 1995.
>
> The first drafts of the spec were submitted in 1992/93 as you know.
>
> It still isn't recognized as an IETF standard.
>

Thankfully, the complete failure known as HTTP 1.1 would never make it
to Proposed Standard under the unwritten process we have now. For
example, it doesn't contain a mandatory, universally interoperable
authentication feature.

-- 

Robert Sayre

"I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time."

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