Re: [KEYPROV] Second Last Call: draft-ietf-keyprov-symmetrickeyformat (Symmetric Key Package Content Type) to Proposed Standard

Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Wed, 28 April 2010 20:12 UTC

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From: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>
To: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>
Subject: Re: [KEYPROV] Second Last Call: draft-ietf-keyprov-symmetrickeyformat (Symmetric Key Package Content Type) to Proposed Standard
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:12:35 -0400
In-Reply-To: <87mxwns62r.fsf@mocca.josefsson.org> (Simon Josefsson's message of "Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:57:48 +0200")
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>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> writes:

    Simon> This document appears to have a normative reference to a
    Simon> patent:

    Simon>    [LUHN] Luhn, H., "Luhn algorithm", US Patent 2950048,
    Simon> August 1960, http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-
    Simon> Parser?patentnumber=2950048.

    Simon> I cannot find a patent disclosure about this on file with the
    Simon> IETF:

    Simon> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-keyprov-symmetrickeyformat

    Simon> I believe the authors should file a patent disclosure about
    Simon> this in order to comply with the spirit of RFC 3979 section
    Simon> 6.1.3.

Simon, I'm not sure what the letter of that BCP says, but I think the
spirit  of the requirements is that we should have disclosures regarding
any IPR that may pose concerns for implementation.


As far as I can tell, this is an August 1960 patent.  It's old enough
that no license is required.  I do not see any concerns this poses.

Am I missing something.

--Sam