Re: FW: Last Call: draft-heard-rfc4181-update (RFC 4181 Update to Recognize the IETF Trust) to BCP

Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Sat, 27 January 2007 20:02 UTC

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C. M. Heard wrote:

> The draft is intended to do the same thing for RFC 4181
> that RFC 4748 did for RFC 3978.  Comments, if any, should
> be directed to <ietf@ietf.org>.

Now that you ask, your patches are straight forward, so why
not simply apply them and publish a complete new 4181bis ?

Patchwork RFCs are IMO ugly.  RFC 4748 was a special case,
it was urgent, there was a competing 3978bis draft, and the
IPR WG intends to update RFC 3978 anyway, soon.

A somewhat radical proposal:  If your patch is approved you
could transform it into a complete 4181bis in AUTH48, and
let that obsolete 4181.  Or is the 4181 situation exacly as
for 4748 + 3978 ?

Your patch might be incomplete, chapter 3.7, appendix A, and
the normative references mention 3978 instead of 3978 + 4748.
Especially appendix A point 7 should now point to RFC 4748.

IIRC RFC 3979 was also patched recently, but apparently it's
still waiting for its RFC number, or I confuse some patches.

It's tempting to use this trick, I considered a simple patch
for an obscure detail in RFC 4409 8.1.  But for readers (or
for authors trying to get their references right) it's ugly.

Frank



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