Re: thoughts on the Boston meeting
Brian Carpenter CERN-CN <brian@dxcern.cern.ch> Thu, 23 July 1992 00:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: thoughts on the Boston meeting
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:18:54 -0000
From: Brian Carpenter CERN-CN <brian@dxcern.cern.ch>
In-Reply-To: <9207211958.AA01058@practic.practic.com>; from "brunner@uunet.uu.net"" at Jul 21, 92 12:58 pm
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>--------- Text sent by "practic!brunner@uunet.uu.net" follows: > (54 lines deleted) > > So, what do I think we can do, well, for one, stop having "decisions" made > at peculiar venues (Kyoto) by questionable procedure (ipv7) would be very > helpful, since the chaos-factor this slight-of-hand has introduced encourages > the tendency to de-value collaborative technical work and make "process" > the only real agenda item, which is counter-productive. > (57 lines deleted) Hey!! The Internet is international and there is nothing, repeat nothing, peculiar about taking decisions in Japan, or Europe, or New Zealand. And without joining the IPv7 controversy with the grossly inflammatory language various people have used, I *cannot* see why the Internet Architecture Board is using any sleight of hand in putting its collective opinion on the network for discussion and comments. Somebody has to lead the discussion to a conclusion, before the Internet actually blows up. On the issue that started this email chain: the IETF would make a gross strategic error by closing its doors. The *point* of the Internet is its open, flexible standards development process. But chairpersons should clearly have the right to declare people out of order if they waste time due to ignorance or for commercial motives. And yes, a serious educational effort is needed. Regards, Brian Carpenter CERN, brian@dxcern.cern.ch voice +41 22 767 4967, fax +41 22 767 7155 (based in the peculiar venue of Geneva, Switzerland)
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