Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org
Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com> Tue, 22 July 2014 17:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org
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On Jul 22, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> wrote: > We're considering approaches to manage noise on the IETF list. One possibility discussed by the IESG is providing moderators to remonstrate with the noise producers prior to action by the sergeant-at-arms. The IESG would like to solicit comments on this and also solicit guidance on other possibilities prior to making any decision As Spencer said, this is good text. However, it's worth noting that we /really do/ have a problem here, and we need to do something about it. What Pete proposed was /really/ mild: he proposed that when people exhibit certain behavior patterns, they be asked to step back--to count to ten, as Vint said. Is that actually an unreasonable thing to be doing? I agree with the hall monitor comment--we really don't want to turn this into a new, improved IETF bullying system. If that's what this looks like to people who are objecting, we probably ought to try to figure out why, and whether there's something we can do to mitigate that concern.
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Michael StJohns
- Moderation on ietf@ietf.org IETF Chair
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Ted Hardie
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org manning bill
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org ned+ietf
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org IETF Chair
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Hector Santos
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Jari Arkko
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Stephen Farrell
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Michael StJohns
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org IETF Chair
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Michael StJohns
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Spencer Dawkins
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Pete Resnick
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org James Woodyatt
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Dave Crocker
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Ted Lemon
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Chris Elliott
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Ted Lemon
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Michael StJohns
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Eliot Lear
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Michael StJohns
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org John W Noerenberg II
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Pete Resnick
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Scott Brim
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Miles Fidelman
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Michael Richardson
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Pete Resnick
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Ted Lemon
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Clueless (was: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org) S Moonesamy
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Yoav Nir
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Avri Doria
- Re: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org Hector Santos
- Re: Clueless (was: Moderation on ietf@ietf.org) Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Clueless Miles Fidelman