Re: Selection of the committee

[Kyle Rose <[e-mail]>]

To maintain the integrity of the process as-intended by RFC 3797, there can
be no changes to the candidate pool once the seeds have been determined
(i.e., once the selected events have come to pass). At that point, the pool
must be immutable. If there are policy disqualifications such as those
you've identified, Barry, they must now be made by skipping such candidates
after the order has been determined. While the text in the RFC refers to
"uncertainty" in the pool:

   The best way to handle this is to maintain the announced schedule,
   INCLUDE in the published pool all those whose eligibility is
   uncertain and to keep the published pool list numbering IMMUTABLE
   after its publication.  If someone in the pool is later selected by
   the algorithm and random input but it has been determined they are
   ineligible, they can be skipped and the algorithm run further to make
   an additional selection.

the need to avoid any possibility of gaming the selection process is the
*purpose* of the pool being made immutable prior to determination of the
seeds, and so using the resolution process recommended for "uncertain
eligibility" for those who should have been removed at an earlier stage is
the only appropriate action at this point.

Kyle

On Mon, Aug 8, 2022 at 8:24 AM Barry Leiba <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Rich, I note that on the last "final list" that you posted, you still
> list me and Victor Kuarsingh.  We both asked you to remove our names,
> because as ISOC Trustees we can not be on the NomCom (the ISOC BoT is
> the confirmation body for IAB selections).
>
> Did you run the algorithm with our names on the list?  Did you remove
> our names before running the algorithm?  Running the algorithm against
> the list you posted on 25 July does not give the same results you
> posted below.  Can you please post the actual volunteer list that you
> used, with the volunteers numbered?
>
> Thanks,
> Barry
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 11:54 AM NomCom Chair 2022
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > The random seeds, as specified earlier, are as follows:
> > # The seven numbers from Tuesday August 2 Euro-Millions
> > 7 18 28 40 48 8 11
> > # The six numbers from Monday August 1 US Powerball
> > 15 21 31 36 65 16
> > # The eight numbers from Saturday July 30 Australian TattsLotto
> > 17 21 12 26 8 42 35 13
> > # The nine numbers from the July 29 Japanese Lotto 7
> > 1 10 13 14 16 25 27 5 21
> >
> > I implemented RFC 3797 in Python and it can be found at
> https://github.com/richsalz/ietf-rfc3797  It includes a test-case to run
> against the "worked example" from that RFC.
> >
> > The following people have been picked:
> > Mike Jones Microsoft [e-mail] p1+p2
> > Ron Bonica Juniper Networks [e-mail] p1+p2+p3
> > Marc Petit-Huguenin Impedance Mismatch LLC [e-mail] p1+p3
> > Chris Lemmons Comcast [e-mail] p1
> > Vishnu Pavan Beeram Juniper Networks [e-mail] p1+p2+p3
> > Sarah Banks Corelight [e-mail] p1+p2+p3
> > Varun Singh Daily.co [e-mail] p3
> > Pascal Thubert Cisco Systems [e-mail] p1+p2+p3
> > Daniel King Lancaster University [e-mail] p1+p3
> > Christian Huitema Private Octopus Inc. [e-mail] p1+p3
> >
> > I have contacted them separately.  This note starts the two-week
> challenge time.
> >
>
>