Re: iesg: Re: [arch-d] Updates on IAB mailing lists

Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Mon, 20 April 2020 21:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: iesg: Re: [arch-d] Updates on IAB mailing lists
To: Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
Cc: "architecture-discuss@ietf.org" <architecture-discuss@ietf.org>, iesg@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org
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From: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
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On 4/20/2020 4:00 PM, Tommy Pauly wrote:
> Indeed, the discussion on the list is to be encouraged! The goal of clarifying the policy is to ensure that, as this list is an IAB-sponsored activity, that the community does have a productive and open space to discuss. The SAA’s role is to handle spam or abuse only.


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