Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput and quality
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Thu, 07 October 2004 21:31 UTC
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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 17:22:59 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Carl Malamud <carl@media.org>
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Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput and quality
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Carl, You know that this is going to take more than one employee (or individual contractor) and that the difference is hair-splitting for most reasons. I know that. The document if read carefully is pretty clear about that. But I keep seeing "one employee only" comments which lead me to believe that some people are still confused. john --On Thursday, October 07, 2004 7:20 AM -0700 Carl Malamud <carl@media.org> wrote: >> >> This is one of my more general objections to the report -- in >> areas like the personnel one and how staffing roles are >> presented, it appears (intentionally or not) to be organized >> in such a way as to impede community understanding of what >> is being proposed. > > I'm not sure what you're referring to here, John. You > understood it. I assume the rest of the community is at least > as smart. This is a pretty hard community to impede, so I > didn't try. > > Rather than tell you, or other members of the community, what > to think, I tried to give you some additional facts. You, as > well as everybody else, are perfectly able to draw your own > conclusions. (And, should you wish it, I am available to talk > to you or any other member of the community to futher elaborate > any of these issues ... I'm even able to make concrete > recommendations if you'd like to hear them.) > > As you rightly pointed out, there are more than one staff roles > that support the IETF. You can do that as contractors or as > employees. It just doesn't matter in the long run, in theory. > In practice, it depends on who you are able to attract who > might want to work for you. And, as you've stressed a few > times, the first step is to get the administrative director > ("IAD") hired. > > If you have specific suggestions for that job description, that > would be quite useful. You've mentioned several times you > didn't like the one in the report, so this would be a good > time to fix that flaw. > > Thanks! > > Carl > , _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput and… John C Klensin
- Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput… John C Klensin
- Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput… John C Klensin
- Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput… John C Klensin
- Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput… Carl Malamud
- Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput… John C Klensin
- RE: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput… Tony Hain
- Re: The "Clerk" function and Standards throughput… Carl Malamud