Re: Revised IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020 to address feedback raised
Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net> Fri, 29 May 2020 18:34 UTC
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From: Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Cc: Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>, Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "Deen, Glenn" <Glenn.Deen@nbcuni.com>, Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com>, ietf <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Revised IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020 to address feedback raised
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 13:34:50 -0500
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On 29 May 2020, at 9:37, Eric Rescorla wrote: >> 6\. To deliver a toolchain that is up-to-date and well regarded by >> users. > > This seems in conflict with "evidence-led". Suppose the toolchain > was well-regarded by users but empirically less efficient than > other toolchains. I've got no problem with "efficient" being added to list of "up-to-date" and "well-regarded", but I wouldn't want to see "well-regarded" removed (at least with out something else that captures the right sense). We could get a data-driven result that using a particular toolchain is incredibly efficient, but if people are unwilling to use it for (perhaps irrational) reasons of not liking the look-and-feel of it, or even just because it uses a new way of thinking that people are resistant to, that weighs against trying to deliver it. I think it's OK for those principles to be in tension and the LLC has to use its judgment to figure out what's best (in consultation with the community of users, of course). But we still want to take that "regard" into account. And like I said, a different term than "well-regarded" that captures my concern is perfectly OK. pr -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best
- Revised IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020 to add… Jay Daley
- Re: Revised IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020 to… Eric Rescorla
- Re: Revised IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020 to… Pete Resnick
- Re: Revised IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020 to… Salz, Rich
- Re: Revised IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020 to… Jay Daley
- Re: Revised IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020 to… Eric Rescorla
- Re: Revised IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020 to… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Revised IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020 to… Jay Daley