Re: IETF 72 --> Dublin!
Bill Manning <bmanning@ISI.EDU> Fri, 08 February 2008 04:54 UTC
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Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:55:08 -0800
From: Bill Manning <bmanning@ISI.EDU>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: IETF 72 --> Dublin!
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On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 02:27:13PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 01:29:40PM -0500, Edward Lewis wrote: > > > > I really have a hard time being sympathetic to this complaint. If > > the purpose of the IETF is open discussion and cross-pollination, > > what does it matter where we are so long as there's comfortable > > access to the expertise needed? Is there an unwritten requirement > > that IETFs are placed to afford us sightseeing? To afford us access > > to restaurants? > > Well, many IETF'ers get tired of eating at the same hotel restaurant, > day after day, for the whole week. Also a common problem is that many > hotel restaurants are not well equipped to deal with a very large > number of people all showing up at the resturant at the same time (+/- > 10 minutes), thus flooding the kitchen with orders and resulting in > glacial service times. I remember one of the first times we were at > Minneapolis, and I made a mistake of eating at the hotel restaurant > for lunch, and the food not showing up at the table until something > like 5 or 10 minutes before the next working group meeting was > supposed to start. Needless to say, that was the last time I > frequented that hotel restaurant the whole week! Fortunately in > Minneapolis there were other restaurant options that were a close walk > away from the hotel. convience is one thing, medical/religious options are much more constrained in a "remote" location. for those who have food allegies, or other dietary restrictions, this could be problematic. -bill > - Ted > > [1] http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2007/10/08/sous-vide-revisited/ > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf -- --bill Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise). _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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