Re: TSV-DIR Review of draft-ietf-shim6-protocol-09.txt

Bernard Aboba <aboba@internaut.com> Fri, 23 November 2007 14:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: TSV-DIR Review of draft-ietf-shim6-protocol-09.txt
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> Note that we explicitly say that this applies to local knowledge that an
> address doesn't work, although then the issue is confused by mentioning
> deprecation, which leaves the address involved still reachable.

Yes. 

> The issue is also different from regular operation, because if I pull out my
> ethernet cable when I'm not running shim6, the only two options are keeping
> the session open until it times out or giving up immediately. The latter is
> suboptimal because I could put the cable back in before the session times out.
> But with shim6, it's possible to rehome the connection to a different
> interface so it keeps running whether or not the cable is plugged in again.

My concern is about wireless media which can experience large variations 
in signal/noise ratio, in the process generating transient "link down" 
indications.   This could cause those connections to migrate to other 
media/interfaces.  If the host has implemented the strong host model, then
when the transient "link down" is resolved, the connection won't resume 
using the prior outbound interface.  This could lead to applications 
experiencing sub-optimal conditions  long-term  based on a transient 
event. 

There are a few approaches that come to mind: 

a. Continue to make decisions based on timers, perhaps using the "link 
down" indication as a hint to lower the timer values (e.g. requiring 
only two retransmissions instead of three)

2. Suggest the weak host model to be used along with SHIM6, so that if 
the "link down" proves to be transient, the connection will migrate back 
to its former outgoing interface. 

> It would be possible to adjust the keepalive interval based on RTT estimates,
> though.

If the information is available, this might be the best approach. 


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