RE: [Geopriv] Confirmation of GEOPRIV IETF 68 Working Group Hums

"Winterbottom, James" <James.Winterbottom@andrew.com> Thu, 26 April 2007 14:18 UTC

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This is one of things we have talked about doing in the NENA VoIP Location WG.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: g.caron@bell.ca [mailto:g.caron@bell.ca]
> Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 6:31 AM
> To: br@brianrosen.net; pbaker@verisign.com; jschnizl@cisco.com;
> David_Hankins@isc.org
> Cc: geopriv@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Geopriv] Confirmation of GEOPRIV IETF 68 Working Group Hums
> 
> Brian,
> 
> <we will specify an api on the O/S the application is running>
> 
> Who is "we", geopriv?
> 
> Guy Caron
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Brian Rosen [mailto:br@brianrosen.net]
> Envoyé : 25 avril 2007 14:29
> À : 'Hallam-Baker, Phillip'; 'John Schnizlein'; 'David W. Hankins'
> Cc : 'GEOPRIV WG'; ietf@ietf.org
> Objet : RE: [Geopriv] Confirmation of GEOPRIV IETF 68 Working Group Hums
> 
> On most devices of interest, this is a non issue; they are small embedded
> devices, like phones.
> 
> For other situations, for example a sip softclient running on a laptop, we
> will specify an api on the O/S the application is running.  The api will
> front end a set of "Location Configuration Protocols" of which DHCP is
> one.
> 
> Brian
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hallam-Baker, Phillip [mailto:pbaker@verisign.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:50 AM
> > To: John Schnizlein; David W. Hankins
> > Cc: GEOPRIV WG; ietf@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: [Geopriv] Confirmation of GEOPRIV IETF 68 Working Group
> Hums
> >
> > But how does my application access it?
> >
> > DHCP is not something that an application layer program should be
> allowed
> > to perform. It is a security issue. For good reason performing DHCP
> > operations requires privileges beyond mere network connectivity on
> > Windows.
> >
> > That is why configuring application programs from DHCP never caught on.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Schnizlein [mailto:jschnizl@cisco.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 6:41 PM
> > > To: David W. Hankins
> > > Cc: GEOPRIV WG; ietf@ietf.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Confirmation of GEOPRIV IETF 68
> > > Working Group Hums
> > >
> > > The reason that DHCP is appropriate for information about the
> > > location of the host is that the scope of DHCP administration
> > > usually does match the local network to which the host is
> > > attached.  Location is local information.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Apr 20, 2007, at 3:38 PM, David W. Hankins wrote:
> > >
> > > > The point is that the ISO L(x) is not what one considers
> > > when judging
> > > > wether or not a certain configuration value "would make a good band
> > > > name.  I mean DHCP option."
> > > >
> > > > What we (strive to) consider instead is the administrative scope of
> > > > the configuration information, and wether it matches common and
> > > > practical use of DHCP.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 19, 2007, at 7:47 PM, David W. Hankins wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 03:38:40PM -0700, Hallam-Baker,
> > > Phillip wrote:
> > > >> DHCP is a layer 3 technology that talks directly to layer 2.
> > > >
> > > > DHCP is a technology that dynamically configures hosts.
> > > >
> > > > If a host has a configuration knob that might reasonably
> > > and properly
> > > > be set by the systems administrator or the network you are
> > > presently
> > > > attached to, then it is reasonable and proper to configure it via
> > > > DHCP.
> > >
> > >
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