Re: discussion tone
Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Fri, 18 December 2015 15:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: discussion tone
From: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
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I don't think the language or the tone or the misunderstanding is the issue. The joke in public is the issue or the thing joking about is the issue. I think public joking that can be against one person's things MUST be stoped or deleted and done in public as well. I think, Still ietf needs to improve methods to solve/manage jokey inputs or outputs. AB On Friday, December 18, 2015, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ < jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote: > Hi all, > > Speaking as sergeant-at-arms. > > In the recent discussion about the BA meeting, some people is feeling that > some comments are not respectful. > > I fully understand that some times we want to make a joke about something, > but for some locals if may be not quite nice. At the end is a cultural > problem, subjective and some times even misunderstood when your natural > language is not the English. > > So please, to avoid further issues when posting to this list, just think > twice what you write and make sure to get your tone down. > > Thanks ! > > Regards, > Jordi > > > > > > >
- discussion tone JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: discussion tone Abdussalam Baryun