Fwd: Complaint to IAB regarding IESG decisions

Chris Box <chris.box.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 29 October 2025 16:37 UTC

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From: Chris Box <chris.box.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 16:36:01 +0000
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Subject: Fwd: Complaint to IAB regarding IESG decisions
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All,

Following a request from D J Bernstein, I am publishing below the level 1
moderation action we initiated on Friday.

If anyone wants to offer feedback regarding this action without involving
the whole community, you can send it to moderators@ietf.org which comes to
the three of us.

Thanks,
Chris Box on behalf of the Moderators team for ietf@ietf.org

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Chris Box <chris.box.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 at 17:41
Subject: Re: Complaint to IAB regarding IESG decisions
To: <djb@cr.yp.to>
Cc: IETF Moderators <moderators@ietf.org>


DJB,

I am writing to you on behalf of the Moderators team for ietf@ietf.org.
This message has been vetted with others on the Moderators team, which is
described in more detail at [1] and [2].

We are reaching out to you because of your recent message to ietf@ietf.org
[3]. It includes a derivative works rights clause that contravenes the
recent IESG statement [4].

We consider this is disruptive behaviour. As such, we request that you take
a voluntary 5-day break from posting to ietf@ietf.org. We will be notifying
ietf@ietf.org that we have been in touch with you. If we see another such
clause, we will restrict your posting rights to ietf@ietf.org.

If you wish for us to make this message public, please let us know and we
will re-send it with ietf@ietf.org on cc.

Thanks,
Chris Box on behalf of the Moderators team for ietf@ietf.org

[1] https://www.ietf.org/how/lists/discussion/
[2] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9245.html
[3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/5vTFheUsEDWI6GfK0Q_e3h45nX8/
[4]
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-statement-on-clarifying-derivative-works-rights/


On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 at 14:21, D. J. Bernstein <djb@cr.yp.to> wrote:

> Dear IAB:
>
> I am writing to file https://cr.yp.to/2025/20251024-rules.pdf with you.
> For transparency, I am cc'ing ietf@ietf.org, and I request that you
> carry out all discussion of this matter as followups in the same thread
> on the same public mailing list. Please let me know if you have any
> questions.
>
> ---D. J. Bernstein
>
>
> ===== NOTICES =====
>
> This document may not be modified, and derivative works of it may not be
> created, and it may not be published except as an Internet-Draft. (That
> sentence is the official language from IETF's "Legend Instructions" for
> the situation that "the Contributor does not wish to allow modifications
> nor to allow publication as an RFC". I'm fine with redistribution of
> copies of this document; the issue is with modification.)
>
>