Re: Call for comment: <draft-iab-doi-04.txt> (Assigning Digital Object Identifiers to RFCs)

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Sat, 04 July 2015 18:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: Call for comment: <draft-iab-doi-04.txt> (Assigning Digital Object Identifiers to RFCs)
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This discussion has been very informative!

Just as an example, Journal of Optical Communications and Networking uses
the volume number and page number. Here are two JOCN DOIs I used recently
in RFC informative references:

10.1364/JOCN.4.000001 (actually Vol. 4, Issue 1, pp. 1-14 (2012))

10.1364/JOCN.7.00A447 (actually Vol. 7, Issue 3, pp. A447-A458 (2015))

For RFCs, I actually don't mind:

10.17487/rfc1149

Since DOIs are opaque, that doesn't preclude future use of a numeric prefix
as well for something completely different.

The draft should be clear about whether or not leading zeros are used for
low-numbered documents.

Cheers,
Andy


On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> >Can you explain where such a suggestion is made?  As to the form that
> >comes AFTER the prefix, THAT is worthy of discussion, but that indeed
> >may be too late.
>
> As I note in the draft, the part after the prefix is opaque.  The DOIs
> that the ACM assigns are two numbers that have no connection to
> anything else I can figure out.  The IEEE uses some combination of a
> short abbreviation of the journal name, the year, and a sequence
> number that does not tell you what issue the article is in.
>
> In retrospect, rather than making them look like RFC numbers I should
> have used a pseudo-random 10 digit hash of the date, authors, and
> document title so people would stop complaining about RFC123 vs.
> RFC0123.
>
> R's,
> John
>
>