Re: new ietf mail archive? permanent urls?
Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Mon, 21 March 2016 10:03 UTC
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Hi Lloyd, On 2016-03-20 12:42, lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > okay, I've finally belatedly noticed the new ietf mail archive. > (because I have a life these days.) > > Is e.g. > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/GKYUQNOssvg-JIsPfj90_YI5r9w > a permanent url? If not, should it be? Yes, it is. If you go and look at the message headers, you'll notice that there's even an Archived-At: header field which has that permanent url as its value. > (It's occasionally > useful to refer to emails directly, and cite text with urls, but > that doesn't look like a good choice. I mean, no date in url? > as a hint?) Good point. I think it would be rather easy to add a date hint to the permanent URL, even if I think we'd still be using just the list and hash to identify and pull out the message at the server end. The list is already in the URL (in the case of the URL above, the list identifier is the '/ietf/' part). Regards, Henrik
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