Re: Importance of NomCom chair role (was: Re: draft-sullivan-nomcom-chair-select-00)
Mary B <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com> Tue, 15 February 2022 14:46 UTC
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From: Mary B <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 08:45:42 -0600
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Subject: Re: Importance of NomCom chair role (was: Re: draft-sullivan-nomcom-chair-select-00)
To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
Cc: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Andrew Sullivan <sullivan@isoc.org>, ietf <IETF@ietf.org>
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Addressing this one point, that was the whole notion behind each chair publishing a report like this: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-barnes-nomcom-report-2009-00.txt I don't think these reports have been done recently but I personally found it extremely helpful in the cases that chairs did that. We hadn't published any of these as RFCs, however, given the sorts of documents we publish nowadays I think it would be appropriate to do so. You can find some of the aspects you note in Nomcom chair's report at the plenaries. Regards, Mary On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 4:17 PM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: > > I actually also think the need for very experienced NomCom chairs would > reduce if more of those interesting decision points/processes where > written down. So far a lot seems to be just inherited from only last > years NomCom. > > Cheers > Toerless > > > > -- > --- > tte@cs.fau.de > >