Re: OPES charter proposal again.
"Michael W. Condry" <condry@intel.com> Tue, 03 July 2001 15:40 UTC
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 08:35:00 -0700
To: Lloyd Wood <L.Wood@eim.surrey.ac.uk>, ietf@ietf.org
From: "Michael W. Condry" <condry@intel.com>
Subject: Re: OPES charter proposal again.
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At 02:45 AM 7/3/2001 +0100, Lloyd Wood wrote: >I do like the 'extend [..] the iCAP protocol without being obliged to >retain any level of compatibility with the current iCAP proposal.' >Fine, since iCAP's just an individual draft -- but isn't extending >without being compatible something only Microsoft is generally >regarded as being capable of doing? That is not the intent. The intent is that the IETF process will be followed with regard to iCAP (not some other organization's process). >(and security _enforcement_? is lack of enforcement specification the >reason IPSec hasn't taken off, perhaps?) > >L. > >http://www.extproxy.org/ doesn't have that expired draft. Which one, I will correct that. ><L.Wood@surrey.ac.uk>PGP<http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/> > >On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, The IESG wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 18:04:26 -0400 > > From: The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> > > To: IETF-Announce: ; > > Cc: new-work@ietf.org > > Subject: WG Review: Open Pluggable Edge Services (opes) > > > > > > A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Applications Area. > > The IESG has not made any determination as yet. Note that this is the > > second review message for OPES due to changes to the original > > proposed charter. > > > > The following Description was submitted, and is provided for > > informational purposes only: > > > > Description of Working Group: > > > > The Internet is facilitating multiple forms of distributed > > applications, some of which employ application-level intermediaries. > > The Open Pluggable Edge Services (OPES) working group's primary task is > > to define application-level protocols enabling such intermediaries to > > incorporate services that operate on messages transported by HTTP and > > RTP/RTSP. At the IP level, the participating intermediaries are > > endpoints that are addressed explicitly. > > > > The protocols to be defined provide a framework for integrating a wide > > range of services into application-level intermediaries. The advantage > > of standardizing such protocols is that services can be re-used across > > vendor products without modifying the intermediaries or services. > > > > Intermediary services provided in this way are not transparent: They > > must be authorized by the application endpoint (either the content > > requestor or the content provider) that requests the intermediary > > service. A key task for the working group is to specify an appropriate > > authorization mechanism. > > > > Intermediaries may employ services executed either locally or on a > > remote ("callout") server. One task for this working group is the > > development of callout protocols that enable the receiving callout > > service to either receive encapsulated HTTP or RTP/RTSP messages or, > > through some other mechanism, for the callout service to receive the > > application data necessary to perform its services. > > > > The iCAP protocol provides similar function for services operating on > > iCAP-encapsulated HTTP application data. The working group will > > evaluate the iCAP protocol as one candidate for passing HTTP > > application data for remote services. It may decide to extend or even > > not use the iCAP protocol without being obliged to retain any level of > > compatibility with the current iCAP proposal. > > > > Another task for this working group is to enumerate the requirements > > for management policies and associated administrative protocols that > > allow these services to be specified and deployed. This includes > > requirements on the rule systems used to specify conditions under which > > services are executed. > > > > The working group will develop a security model for OPES services in > > which authorization and enforcement will be defined. The model will > > specify the entities, privileges, notifications, and authorization > > actions affecting content. In addition, the model will show how > > end-to-end services and data integrity concepts are mapped onto the > > OPES architecture. > > > > > > Related Internet-Drafts > > > > Prior related requirements document (expired but available on the web > > site): > > draft-tomlinson-epsfw-00.txt > > > > Updated iCAP Callout Protocol: > > draft-elson-opes-icap-01.txt > > > > A Rule Specification Language for Proxy Services: > > draft-beck-opes-irml-00.txt > > > > OPES Network Taxonomy: > > draft-erikson-opes-net-taxonomy-00.txt > > > > OPES Architecture for Rule Processing and Service Execution: > > draft-yang-opes-rule-processing-service-execution-00.txt > > > > OMML: OPES Meta-data Markup Language: > > draft-maciocco-opes-omml-00.txt > > > > General Use Cases: > > draft-beck-opes-esfnep-01.txt Michael W. Condry Director, Network Edge Technology
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