Re: Media type for PGP message?

[t.p. <[e-mail]>]

Tim

I realise that the Applications Area is redundant and will soon be
exterminated, but, perhaps, it just might linger on long enough to
provide a home for a discussion of a new media type:-); the apps-discuss
list could just do.

Tom Petch

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Bray" <[e-mail]>
To: "John Levine" <[e-mail]>
Cc: "scott" <[e-mail]>; "IETF-Discussion Discussion"
<[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: Media type for PGP message?


A new version of I-D, draft-bray-pgp-message-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Tim Bray and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:           draft-bray-pgp-message
Revision:       00
Title:          The OpenPGP Message Format
Document date:  2014-10-16
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          6
URL:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bray-pgp-message-00.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bray-pgp-message/
Htmlized:       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bray-pgp-message-00

“Real” HTML: https://www.tbray.org/tmp/draft-bray-pgp-message-00.html

Abstract:
   RFC 4880 specifies the encoding for encrypted OpenPGP messages.  This
   document registers an Internet Media Type for these messages.

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Tim Bray <[e-mail]> wrote:
> As I noted, there are many text-centric messaging channels that are in
> wide use but are not in any sense email.
>
> Um, I’m suggesting registering a media type for a message format that
is:
>
> - specified in a standards-track RFC (See RFC4880, sections 2.4 and 6)
> - widely supported in software in a variety of programming languages
> (references on request)
> - currently being used in deployed apps (once again, see
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZYI0JHoJCILEegRJsWufXQ)
>
> Media types are supposed to be useful for dispatching payloads in
> well-known formats to the appropriate software modules.  Why is this
> controversial?
>
> Anyhow, this discussion has revealed that there apparently isn’t a
> registered media-type for this purpose, so I’ll write a draft and
> we’ll have something concrete to argue about.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:58 PM, John Levine <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> In article <2684567.G0MAaMzsuj@kitterman-optiplex-9020m> you write:
>>>I went back and looked at a random sampling of the PGP encrypted
mails I've
>>>received over the last couple of years.  100% of them were multipart:
>>
>> You might want to check stuff that's PGP signed.  In my experience,
the
>> majority is still ASCII armored, not MIME.
>>
>> R's,
>> John