Re: Secdir last call review of draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-08

Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 18 February 2019 17:08 UTC

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From: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 12:07:28 -0500
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Subject: Re: Secdir last call review of draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis-08
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>, IETF SecDir <secdir@ietf.org>, draft-nottingham-rfc5785bis.all@ietf.org
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On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 9:58 PM Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:

> On 18 Feb 2019, at 1:50 pm, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Because, by the time this becomes an RFC, I (the expert of the
> registry, IESG still willing), will
> >> work with IANA to get that set up. Probably during AUTH48.
> >
> > It would be nice if that were already done, but I'm good with that
> > assurance.  Kathleen?
>
> It seemed rash to set up the new process before the document was approved.
>

I'll leave it up to the current ADs, but having text that says something
like:

"The instructions included below are the initial set  to be used by IANA
and entered on the registry.  Subsequent updates will be made directly to
the registry, therefore that set is considered authoritative."

Would be helpful to avoid confusion.

Best regards,
Kathleen

>
> Cheers,
>
>
> --
> Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
>
>

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Best regards,
Kathleen